Overwintering in Turkey

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We are liveaboards looking at overwintering in Turkey next year, 2014/15, and would be grateful for marina recommendations and approximate prices for a 15 metre yacht.
 
We are our 2nd winter at Yacht Classic Hotel in Fethiye, Turkey www.yachtclassichotel.com

This year we paid 2,000 Euro for the winter (Nov 1 - April 15 not earlier and not later) for monohulls up to 17 meter. It is full this winter. They are expanding their docks...new floating pontoons are made and in the water, but waiting on already approved permits to be issued. They will not make reservations for 2014/2015 until the permit is "in-hand."

Extremely well protected and good facilities.

Bill
 
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Can highly recommend Finike, part of the Setur group. Good shelter, great liveaboard community well supported by the office, pleasant town (non-touristy, low local prices), spectacular surroundings. Finike (and Kas, whose base price is higher) have a special winter 'campaign' such that a 16m x 4.7m yacht would pay €2165 for 180 days in winter. A 15m yacht would pay maybe €400 less than that, depending on beam. See: http://www.seturmarinas.com/en/index.php?page=price-calculation

There is a price calculator on the Setur site but it seems not to take account of this discount.

What effect on prices any mass influx from Greece might have we await with interest.
 
Can highly recommend Finike, part of the Setur group. Good shelter, great liveaboard community well supported by the office, pleasant town (non-touristy, low local prices), spectacular surroundings. Finike (and Kas, whose base price is higher) have a special winter 'campaign' such that a 16m x 4.7m yacht would pay €2165 for 180 days in winter. A 15m yacht would pay maybe €400 less than that, depending on beam. See: http://www.seturmarinas.com/en/index.php?page=price-calculation

There is a price calculator on the Setur site but it seems not to take account of this discount.



What effect on prices any mass influx from Greece might have we await with interest.

We liked this place as well. Cheap,cheerful and friendly
 
£80 a week to park a boat?

You get what you pay for!
Didim:
Yacht club, 5 star restaurant, carrefour supermarket on site, laundry on site, beach club includes bar and private beach, awesome security with 24/7/365 manned barriers, health club, gym. We don't live aboard so the security is important when we're not there and the luxury is very welcome when are.
All considered £3900 is a very very good deal in my book.
It's a Lot cheaper than a mooring on the Hamble!
 
You get what you pay for!
Didim:
Yacht club, 5 star restaurant, carrefour supermarket on site, laundry on site, beach club includes bar and private beach, awesome security with 24/7/365 manned barriers, health club, gym. We don't live aboard so the security is important when we're not there and the luxury is very welcome when are.
All considered £3900 is a very very good deal in my book.
It's a Lot cheaper than a mooring on the Hamble!

There are no private beaches in Turkey by law. There may be private facilities and the hinterland may be private but "the sand" is free to everyone.
 
There are no private beaches in Turkey by law. There may be private facilities and the hinterland may be private but "the sand" is free to everyone.

Ok! To be absolutely crystal clear, the area of shallow sea fronting the beach club is buoyed off between the cliff on the left and the marina wall on the right to discourage holiday makers on the adjacent beach from swimming across. They would need to swim 150m or so hence not many bother. This provides club members with about 3 acres of sea to play in.
 
Can highly recommend Finike, part of the Setur group. Good shelter, great liveaboard community well supported by the office, pleasant town (non-touristy, low local prices), spectacular surroundings. Finike (and Kas, whose base price is higher) have a special winter 'campaign' such that a 16m x 4.7m yacht would pay €2165 for 180 days in winter. A 15m yacht would pay maybe €400 less than that, depending on beam. See: http://www.seturmarinas.com/en/index.php?page=price-calculation

There is a price calculator on the Setur site but it seems not to take account of this discount.

What effect on prices any mass influx from Greece might have we await with interest.

Thank you for that, they have quoted 2,180 for next winter water, elec and wifi inclusive which looks good to me :encouragement: Now all I need to understand is the Blue Card and pump out situation.
 
Thank you for that, they have quoted 2,180 for next winter water, elec and wifi inclusive which looks good to me :encouragement: Now all I need to understand is the Blue Card and pump out situation.

You're very welcome. By way of a post script, I drove past Kas marina the other day: it's half-empty and reportedly has next-to-no liveaboard community.

If planning on spending the winter aboard, as you no doubt know you'd need an ikamet (residency permit). It would be wise to familiarise yourself with the new procedures in force from April. Amongst these, you'll be glad to hear, is a reduced cost for UK citizens: US$25 for the first month, $5 per month thereafter.
Should you need any local info about Finike, please feel free to drop me a PM.
 
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Yes Turkey is expensive and likely to become more so. However prices are still far less than UK S coast.

It's odd, but this question throws up surprisingly polarised views amongst the liveaboard community here in Finike. One of the main ingredients is probably the cost of booze, which is dearer than much of Med Europe: shop prices are higher (no Lidls :)), although the mark-up in bars is typically less than in Greece. General groceries are far cheaper (and better), and the same goes for general household supplies, although inevitably there's a premium in the more touristy areas. Eating out is cheap unless you follow the tourist horde. Marina fees are generally comparable with Greece, although lift-out costs can be eye-watering.

Of course to that you can add the cost of clearing-in, plus residency permit, if needed. On the other hand, £1 buys over 20% more Turkish lira than it did last March. I'll make no comparisons with the new Greek tax until we know exactly how it will be implemented.
 
We are liveaboards looking at overwintering in Turkey next year, 2014/15, and would be grateful for marina recommendations and approximate prices for a 15 metre yacht.

Good morning:

Don't think I would waste much time considering Netsel Marina in Marmaris as they have just introduced charges for electricity which in the past has been factored into the berthing charges making it a serious contender however at the moment there are forty very angry liveaboards.

People are not so much angry at the introduction of charges even though it is being introduced mid-contract for most but at the price per kilowatt demanded. For example whereas a local would pay between .12 and .32 lira per kw depending on the time of day the marina is demanding .44 Euros (1.3 lira) making for a mark up of more than 400 %. Every kw of electricity consumed makes a profit of almost a lira or more for the marina.

Of course, only the private clients will be expected to pay because the charter companies are reportedly exempt.

When requesting quotations I suggest you include this subject because it can and will add a substantial amount to your bill.

Don't expect many of those who chose to over-winter here will be back next year.

Cheers

Squeaky
 
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Good morning:

Don't think I would waste much time considering Netsel Marina in Marmaris as they have just introduced charges for electricity which in the past has been factored into the berthing charges making it a serious contender however at the moment there are forty very angry liveaboards.

People are not so much angry at the introduction of charges even though it is being introduced mid-contract for most but at the price per kilowatt demanded. For example whereas a local would pay between .12 and .32 lira per kw depending on the time of day the marina is demanding .44 Euros (1.3 lira) making for a mark up of more than 400 %. Every kw of electricity consumed makes a profit of almost a lira or more for the marina.

Of course, only the private clients will be expected to pay because the charter companies are reportedly exempt.

When requesting quotations I suggest you include this subject because it can and will add a substantial amount to your bill.

Don't expect many of those who chose to over-winter here will be back next year.

Cheers

Squeaky


Ah they finally brought it in then,,,,qwen's fault hee hee
 
I think its excessive and why take a 12 month contract? I thought the reason we have boast is because they are mobile.
I was one of the first in D marine Turgutreis, in 2004. At the time they were begging people to stay

Good evening:

I don't know why others might take a 12 month contract but in my case my first contract with Netsel was for six months however in the spring I was not ready to leave so investigated signing up for another month and discovered that the monthly cost was almost half the cost of a six month contract. The man in reception asked if I would be returning and when I told him that I probably would he suggested signing a 12 month contract as that would be cheaper than the original six month contract and a further one month contract. In other words if I returned and took another six month contract in the fall I would be paying almost the same as I would pay for one year. The only question to be decided was whether I wanted to spend another winter in Netsel.

It was and remains one of the best marinas I have ever used so I signed for a one year contract and have done the same every year since then. Some years I have left at the end of March and returned in October but it has been nice to know that I had a berth waiting for me. One year a friend who only signed a six month contract to ensure that he got the old price had to spend a month hanging around in Rhodes waiting for the start date of his contract.

I think the question has to be what is the cost of a winter contract compared to a one year contract especially if you think you might return for another winter. Even if you don't return the loss will be much less than the cost of a six month contract.

Netsel has been a great marina over the years however their recent decision to load on charges for electricity which are up to five times the price enjoyed by locals does create a nasty taste in my mouth.

Due to personal circumstance I cannot conveniently leave but I don't imagine that many of those who have wintered here this year will be returning.

Cheers

Squeaky
 
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