longjohnsilver
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Mike, respect! How do you cope with a 22 yr old wife, and more to the point, where did you find her?
Ooops seem to have ended up in the Sunseeker sales office....
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Mike, respect! How do you cope with a 22 yr old wife, and more to the point, where did you find her?
DougH
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DougH
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Hi Greenhorn,
Ignore all the crap above, the Sunseeker Manhattan 52 is a cracking boat both in quality and design and is aim at those light of step and with a song in their heart.:encouragement:
The Princess range is for old farts who love old fashion boring interiors and who do not realise they are old before their time.
Get some training in the UK with Solitaire or Mendez on the new boat and use a trainer on the first twenty trips with you as skipper.
All assuming you have done the relevant shore based courses.
When ready come out to Mallorca where the 52 will be an average size boat which will mean plenty of room in the marinas.
ALL IN MY HUMBLE OPINION OF COURSE>
Ignore all the crap above, the Sunseeker Manhattan 52 is a cracking boat both in quality and design and is aim at those light of step and with a song in their heart.:encouragement:
The Princess range is for old farts who love old fashion boring interiors and who do not realise they are old before their time.
Get some training in the UK with Solitaire or Mendez on the new boat and use a trainer on the first twenty trips with you as skipper.
All assuming you have done the relevant shore based courses.
When ready come out to Mallorca where the 52 will be an average size boat which will mean plenty of room in the marinas.
ALL IN MY HUMBLE OPINION OF COURSE>
Seastoke
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a good year for a wife and still time for kids
Portofino
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Hi Greenhorn,
Ignore all the crap above, the Sunseeker Manhattan 52 is a cracking boat both in quality and design and is aim at those light of step and with a song in their heart.:encouragement:
The Princess range is for old farts who love old fashion boring interiors and who do not realise they are old before their time.
Get some training in the UK with Solitaire or Mendez on the new boat and use a trainer on the first twenty trips with you as skipper.
All assuming you have done the relevant shore based courses.
When ready come out to Mallorca where the 52 will be an average size boat which will mean plenty of room in the marinas.
ALL IN MY HUMBLE OPINION OF COURSE>
Agree with above ,
I,ll fess up did the same 10 y ago ,bought a refurbed 2 y old SS from the Factory ,they picked me up from Soton Airport ,
I met Mr B, they arranged trucking to SoF , and every morning a skipper the first week .-great after care too .
Kids were young -loved it .
A mate of mine started with a Pred 92 in the Baldricks -yup 1st boat -they organised every thing for him too .
Wife did not like the water lapping sound at night , so they bought a villa to sleep in and used it as a day boat .
Unfortunately - she was burgled / gassed on night -with the kids ( he was in the uk ).
They sold up boat and villa .He,s taken up flying .
Point is SS are used to new starters -they offer a complete package -seen it all before
D
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I may look middle aged, ljs, but I have the body and libido of a much younger manMike, respect! How do you cope with a 22 yr old wife, and more to the point, where did you find her?
alt
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I may look middle aged, ljs, but I have the body and libido of a much younger man
That makes 2 of us, and i'm not even 30
DazzyWoo
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Wow! I think you may be a little bit crazy (but in an awesome way) :encouragement:
I maybe wrong but I'm assuming you don't have must experience? You say you have never owned a boat before... what experience do you have? Have you been on one? Have you stayed overnight on one? Have you helmed?
IMHO 52ft sounds big. How many people aboard? Will you have an experienced / qualified crew? Or will you and wife be looking to go for trips by yourselves with your child? If the later, presumably one of you will be looking after your child - whilst the other helms. That means one of you is going to be skippering pretty much single handed. With a stiff breeze, and bit of current - I can imagine that getting quite stressful, quite quickly. Having said that Portofino and friends seems to cope - so maybe that is just me. :hopeless:
If you haven't stayed overnight on a motor yacht with a young child, I suggest you consider staying a couple of nights on a similar style boat to see if you like it. Eg. this might give you a feel. https://www.bedsonboard.com/boat/lu...#?guests=6&indate=01-2-2016&outdate=05-2-2016
If you haven't helmed a twin engine motor yacht, I suggest a helmsman course is also a good way of getting some useful experience - and seeing if you like being on a flybridge boat. Again- if its just you and your wife on board, it would probably be safest if both of you are able to helm the boat.
Lastly - where are you planning on keeping the boat? If it's in the Med, you might be better off buying a boat that is already in the Med.
Sorry to be so bloody dull
DW
I maybe wrong but I'm assuming you don't have must experience? You say you have never owned a boat before... what experience do you have? Have you been on one? Have you stayed overnight on one? Have you helmed?
IMHO 52ft sounds big. How many people aboard? Will you have an experienced / qualified crew? Or will you and wife be looking to go for trips by yourselves with your child? If the later, presumably one of you will be looking after your child - whilst the other helms. That means one of you is going to be skippering pretty much single handed. With a stiff breeze, and bit of current - I can imagine that getting quite stressful, quite quickly. Having said that Portofino and friends seems to cope - so maybe that is just me. :hopeless:
If you haven't stayed overnight on a motor yacht with a young child, I suggest you consider staying a couple of nights on a similar style boat to see if you like it. Eg. this might give you a feel. https://www.bedsonboard.com/boat/lu...#?guests=6&indate=01-2-2016&outdate=05-2-2016
If you haven't helmed a twin engine motor yacht, I suggest a helmsman course is also a good way of getting some useful experience - and seeing if you like being on a flybridge boat. Again- if its just you and your wife on board, it would probably be safest if both of you are able to helm the boat.
Lastly - where are you planning on keeping the boat? If it's in the Med, you might be better off buying a boat that is already in the Med.
Sorry to be so bloody dull
DW
BruceK
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I look haggard and older because I have kids ranging from 6 to 22. Libido didn't age me, the kids did. I'm all for marrying off the eldest to a temporarily wealthy suitor. I'll even pay her dowry. He'll need it.
Greenhorn
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Thanks everyone for all the advice, you all seem a very friendly bunch.
I have very little experience apart from chartering a sailing yacht with a skipper a few years ago. My wife has more experience, having spent summer holidays with her family on sailing boats and has completed a couple of courses.
We wouldn't want a skipper full time, but I would expect to have one with us for the first few weeks until we both felt comfortable and safe operating the boat. We would keep it somewhere in the med and hope to travel around quite a bit, over say 2-3 months at a time.
Due to the toddler and the travelling I am wondering if a displacement boat (trawler type) would suit our needs better?
Just for those wondering how I managed to retire so early, I should point out that I have three grandchildren as well a 2 year old.
I have very little experience apart from chartering a sailing yacht with a skipper a few years ago. My wife has more experience, having spent summer holidays with her family on sailing boats and has completed a couple of courses.
We wouldn't want a skipper full time, but I would expect to have one with us for the first few weeks until we both felt comfortable and safe operating the boat. We would keep it somewhere in the med and hope to travel around quite a bit, over say 2-3 months at a time.
Due to the toddler and the travelling I am wondering if a displacement boat (trawler type) would suit our needs better?
Just for those wondering how I managed to retire so early, I should point out that I have three grandchildren as well a 2 year old.
bigwow
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AllanG
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....Even more respect to you Greenhorn....well done!! :encouragement: :encouragement:
DevonMotorBoater
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Here is a good link from a Hneryf previous post… shows the Sunseeker product off well. I too was in London last week and was shown the new Manhattan 52 brochure which is yet to be released to the press. Its going to be a great boat by the looks of it I especially liked the bow seating area, cant wait to see it in the flesh...
http://www.ybw.com/forums/showthread.php?380798-Sunseeker-facrory-visit/page2
http://www.ybw.com/forums/showthread.php?380798-Sunseeker-facrory-visit/page2
Bertramdriver
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As a boater whose body has given up and triggered a withdrawal from boating I say go for it. Go for the biggest boat you can genuinely afford but take the time to choose what you want. Think what it will be like trying to dock when the wind and waves are trying to kill you. And your kids are all in the wrong places and you have your precious wife hanging off the passerelle trying to get the lines ashore. Planers are v sexy but semi d's will always get you home and are more stable.
Also semi D's will be far safer and more comfortable. But do it while you can.
Also semi D's will be far safer and more comfortable. But do it while you can.
Greenhorn
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What 50' semi D's should i be looking at?
Whitelighter
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I'm going to get shot down for this, but I would look at the Bebeteau Swift Trawler 52.
It's semi-d so can lift its skirts up. The key is it also has a modern interior so if you liked the SS52 then you are more likely to like this over a, er, more traditional semi-d boat.
Failing that then Flemming make a good boat but inless you go much older you'll need to double your budget.
It's semi-d so can lift its skirts up. The key is it also has a modern interior so if you liked the SS52 then you are more likely to like this over a, er, more traditional semi-d boat.
Failing that then Flemming make a good boat but inless you go much older you'll need to double your budget.
Bertramdriver
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Have a look at the Aquastar ( Guernsey) website. They'll fix you up with a grown up boat and a skipper who will show you how to use it. It would be worth a weekend away to visit their yard on Guernsey. There are others, but after 15 years as the owner of a 50' Bertram, if I was starting and had the cash, this is the only boatmake I would rather have.
Whitelighter
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How much is a reasonably new Aquastar 50?
Bertramdriver
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Talk to Aquastar, they also have a brokerage
Some more pointers
Don't get a boat with a flybridge. In uk waters they're cold and wet. In the med it's like sitting in a fan oven. Also they are death traps for young kids
Don't get a boat with an aft cabin. The extra height on the aftdeck makes mooring more difficult even in reasonably benign conditions.
It's better to keep your family where you can see them so a saloon/ helm and aft cockpit on the same level is much safer and option.
Being in charge on a boat can take you from being chilled to absolute terror in a matter of seconds, especially when your family is involved. The key is to research, listen to experience and not get carried away into the fantasy world of the salesman.
Apart from all that it's the best way of creating adventures and friendships that will last a lifetime.
Some more pointers
Don't get a boat with a flybridge. In uk waters they're cold and wet. In the med it's like sitting in a fan oven. Also they are death traps for young kids
Don't get a boat with an aft cabin. The extra height on the aftdeck makes mooring more difficult even in reasonably benign conditions.
It's better to keep your family where you can see them so a saloon/ helm and aft cockpit on the same level is much safer and option.
Being in charge on a boat can take you from being chilled to absolute terror in a matter of seconds, especially when your family is involved. The key is to research, listen to experience and not get carried away into the fantasy world of the salesman.
Apart from all that it's the best way of creating adventures and friendships that will last a lifetime.
henryf
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£750,000 asking. Princess own the boat so it will be fully guaranteed. Not a Princess and been in stock a little while so possibly keen to see a sale ?
I must say I'm surprised it hasn't sold already, possibly the fact that it's not the usual sort of thing princess sell.
http://www.princess.co.uk/used-yachts/used-aquastar-57-4917518/
Henry
