Oil change

[TernVI]

I have a genuine Pela.
however, I find it leaves significant oil in our Yanmar.
So the sump now has a new drain plug tapped at the back corner.
A deep plastic tray slides under the engine. Sold for Cat litter I think!
Still good to get 3/4 of the oil out of the way with the Pela.

I use the pela for sampling the diesel, removing bilge water, removing oil from various other things including mountain bike forks!
It's also been pushed into service for some simple vacuum bagging of carbon fibre.
I've sorted an alternative, bigger hose with 1/4 turn valve, so I can pump up a vacuum before fussing with the hose.

Another option is a big syringe type of thing, I got a 500cc 'oil syringe ' for under a tenner, good for removing oil and good for putting back a measured amount.

The pela was great for my Audi, but last two cars it leaves too much in the sump.

 

[FairweatherDave]

I have the Pela pump and have used it for a variety of jobs. However, annoyingly the thin black suction pipe has corroded inside, probably from salty bilge water. So I would be wary of what you suck up and would flush the pipe with oil. Secondly anyone got a suitable replacement pipe recommendation?

 

[Bodach na mara]

I have the Pela pump and have used it for a variety of jobs. However, annoyingly the thin black suction pipe has corroded inside, probably from salty bilge water. So I would be wary of what you suck up and would flush the pipe with oil. Secondly anyone got a suitable replacement pipe recommendation?

Expanding curtain wire.

 

[Easticks28]

I have the Pela pump and have used it for a variety of jobs. However, annoyingly the thin black suction pipe has corroded inside, probably from salty bilge water. So I would be wary of what you suck up and would flush the pipe with oil. Secondly anyone got a suitable replacement pipe recommendation?

I bought mine for £ 5 at a boat jumble, It had the same problem ,but I found a local hydraulic firm were able to supply a nylon replacemen for very little cost.

 

[chumblefish]

Are all these pumps discussed above to be used via the dipstick tube? And if the supplied hose is too big diameter to go into the dipstick tube, can you clamp it around the outside of the dipstick tube and still pull the oil out that way? (My boat is a Freeman mk1 with a marinised 1950's ford popular engine.)

Also, to change the oil, is it just a case of 1 warm the engine 2 suck out the oil 3 pour in the new oil, run engine, pour in a bit more as needed until level is right?

Anything else to consider?

Thanks!

 

[Plum]

Are all these pumps discussed above to be used via the dipstick tube? And if the supplied hose is too big diameter to go into the dipstick tube, can you clamp it around the outside of the dipstick tube and still pull the oil out that way? (My boat is a Freeman mk1 with a marinised 1950's ford popular engine.)

Also, to change the oil, is it just a case of 1 warm the engine 2 suck out the oil 3 pour in the new oil, run engine, pour in a bit more as needed until level is right?

Anything else to consider?

Thanks!

Most dipstick tubes do not go the the bottom of the sump (although my VP one does) .

www.solocoastalsailing.co.uk

 

[Rappey]

Are all these pumps discussed above to be used via the dipstick tube? And if the supplied hose is too big diameter to go into the dipstick tube,

Yes they go in via the dipstick tube and the supllied pipe is quite small so should fit any hole.. the rest of your post is essentially correct..

 

[RichardS]

On some engines you can use a wider diameter tube outside the dipstick pipe and on others you have to use a small diameter tube inside the dipstick pipe. My Yanmars use the external tube method but you need to check the manual or just try the two methods for your engine to see which pumps out most oil.

Richard

 

[dankilb]

Most dipstick tubes do not go the the bottom of the sump (although my VP one does) .

www.solocoastalsailing.co.uk

The thin hose on the pela is nifty at getting to the bottom of most ‘basic’ sumps. I’ve only failed on a couple of car/truck engines with baffles or oil pan locations that get in the way (and in my van, for instance, that’s a couple of litres’ worth - annoyingly)

 

[peter gibbs]

Pela oil extractor.

Just get one of these and stand back. Sweat no more. Worth every penny and good for all syphoning jobs. Make sure the capacity is right for your extraction.

PWG

 

[Momac]

Also, to change the oil, is it just a case of 1 warm the engine 2 suck out the oil 3 pour in the new oil, run engine, pour in a bit more as needed until level is right?
Anything else to consider?

Change oil filter .

 

[rotrax]

My 6 litre suction pump clears the sump on our Yanmar 4JH4-HTE virtually completely. 5 litres comes out, plus a quarter litre from the filter, 5.25 litres of fresh oil brings it up to the top mark on the dipstick.

 

[Refueler]

My not-at-all-a-chinese-pela-copy is as happy sucking vile sludge out of the bilge as it is sucking sump oil; try that with your leccy pump.

Exactly ... I suck up anything that's needed to be rid of with my Pela .. so it takes a few runs at the job and you have to pump it quite often .... but it works ...

I am considering a 12v electric pump - but not for the oil ... I have loads of used LiPo batterys that I don't use for flight now - they make excellent 4V .... 8V.... 12v .. 16v packs for flashlights and things like these pumps ..

 

[Refueler]

I used the my Pela to get seawater out from under a moulded inner lining. Unfortunately The metal reinforcement in the tube then rusted and punctured the outer lining. I was able to get a replacement, but I now use a Lidl 12v pump. I have seen similar ones for sale online at prices not much more than Lidl.

My tube - which is really just a large ID bowden outer - the outer casing cracked and failed. Not bad after all the years though.

Its actually very easy to repair ............

I put the whole tube through a length of heat shrink tubing ... then shrunk that down sealing the pipe again. No need to buy new Pela tube unless the internal metal is completely shot.

I also made another tube using the blank cap .... fitted a connector through hole drilled in cap ... then clear plastic tube which was then joined to an alloy tube .... this I use to drain fuel being larger diameter - it is quicker ... and lifts the crud better.

 

[Refueler]

I have the Pela pump and have used it for a variety of jobs. However, annoyingly the thin black suction pipe has corroded inside, probably from salty bilge water. So I would be wary of what you suck up and would flush the pipe with oil. Secondly anyone got a suitable replacement pipe recommendation?

Length of Heat shrink Tubing ... thread old pipe along it till you have covered whole pipe ... heat shrink it down ... seals a treat.

 

[Tamar]

I find it easier on my Perkins M30 to just undo the sump bolt and drain. I have tried the pumps, but find they can be messy. A big plus for me is easy access to the sump.

 

[PetiteFleur]

When I bought a new engine a few years ago, one of the features I wanted was an integral manual oil pump - and settled on a Beta. Dead easy, always change the oil at the end of the season after a run when it's hot, pumped straight into an empty 5 L container.

 

[RichardS]

I find it easier on my Perkins M30 to just undo the sump bolt and drain. I have tried the pumps, but find they can be messy. A big plus for me is easy access to the sump.

When I first read you post I read it as "undo the sump bolts" and thought that you were dropping the sump!

Richard

 

[Tamar]

When I first read you post I read it as "undo the sump bolts" and thought that you were dropping the sump!

Richard

Put your glasses on man?

 

[lynallbel]

Mityvac, plus warm the oil first, job done.
Had my Mityvac for well over 10 years, and it has done hundreds of oil changes.