Not fitting in

[Wansworth]

Today we went on another boat looking at outing and came away with negative thoughts.Although the boat seemed ok in the ad the reality was something way too small and cramped.Sitting and thinking about this I think is that Idont fit in my youth ,I have too much baggage to fit in a small yacht.In my younger days I was at home in a 15 foot double ended but now this latest 23 footer had hardly any room.over the years I have gained a wife ,measurably more volume and acquired levels of comfort that don’t fit in a small boat.I have to come to terms with the idea I cannot return to my youth and need a bigger boat at least 27 foot to hold my dream of going back to sea…….now to convince the wife

 

[LittleSister]

I understand where you're coming from. We don't fold up as well as we used to!

On the other hand, there's a world of difference between a 15 footer (or even 18 footer), and a 23 footer (or at least a cruising orioientated rather than racy one)).

Consider -
1) not all 23 footers are cramped - you should be able to walk about inside easily (albeit with dipped head), sit comfortably upright, and lie out fully stretched in one;
2) you quickly learn how to best fit into and move around the spaces that seem so cramped and awkward on a first visit; and
3) if you wait for the perfect boat that will ideally suit all considerations and circumstances you will never sail again.

If getting a 27 footer is what it take to get the Director of Finance's approval then so be it - go for it, but another approach would be to get yourself a cheap and cheerful 18 to 20 footer - don't worry about whether it's the best available or ideal - and just go sailing before the summer, and your ability to go sailing, is gone.

 

[Fr J Hackett]

Today we went on another boat looking at outing and came away with negative thoughts.Although the boat seemed ok in the ad the reality was something way too small and cramped.Sitting and thinking about this I think is that Idont fit in my youth ,I have too much baggage to fit in a small yacht.In my younger days I was at home in a 15 foot double ended but now this latest 23 footer had hardly any room.over the years I have gained a wife ,measurably more volume and acquired levels of comfort that don’t fit in a small boat.I have to come to terms with the idea I cannot return to my youth and need a bigger boat at least 27 foot to hold my dream of going back to sea…….now to convince the wife

Out of what you say is your price range but the Vancouver 27 is the perfect boat for you, your wife would like it too. If you could find one a 274 would be the tops.

 

[johnalison]

I think that fit is very important but that we are all different. I am small enough at 5'8" to fit into most boats, but my trouble can be that my legs are too short to brace myself in the cockpit. I more or less chose my current boat as soon as I sat in the cockpit and put my hand out to the helm, when I felt quite at home. My old 22' Cirrus was similarly snug but roomy where necessary, mostly. It may be that a little more attention to your diet would help.

 

[Poignard]

The answer is a Twister.

 

[Fr J Hackett]

A couple of years ago we borrowed a 470 dinghy, that convinced me that I won't fit into a boat of less than 40 foot now.

 

[Wansworth]

I understand where you're coming from. We don't fold up as well as we used to!

On the other hand, there's a world of difference between a 15 footer (or even 18 footer), and a 23 footer (or at least a cruising orioientated rather than racy one)).

Consider -
1) not all 23 footers are cramped - you should be able to walk about inside easily (albeit with dipped head), sit comfortably upright, and lie out fully stretched in one;
2) you quickly learn how to best fit into and move around the spaces that seem so cramped and awkward on a first visit; and
3) if you wait for the perfect boat that will ideally suit all considerations and circumstances you will never sail again.

If getting a 27 footer is what it take to get the Director of Finance's approval then so be it - go for it, but another approach would be to get yourself a cheap and cheerful 18 to 20 footer - don't worry about whether it's the best available or ideal - and just go sailing before the summer, and your ability to go sailing, is gone.

That would be possible inthe uk but finding a skiff with a cabin at least for one is not easy in Galicia

 

[Wansworth]

The answer is a Twister.

Yours……please forward to Galicia

 

[Fr J Hackett]

Here you go I reckon that it's a bit over priced and it doesn't have the niceties of the 274 but......

 

[Wansworth]

Out of what you say is your price range but the Vancouver 27 is the perfect boat for you, your wife would like it too. If you could find one a 274 would be the tops.

Yes have always admired the small Vancouver

 

[Wansworth]

I think that fit is very important but that we are all different. I am small enough at 5'8" to fit into most boats, but my trouble can be that my legs are too short to brace myself in the cockpit. I more or less chose my current boat as soon as I sat in the cockpit and put my hand out to the helm, when I felt quite at home. My old 22' Cirrus was similarly snug but roomy where necessary, mostly. It may be that a little more attention to your diet would help.

Looked at a Cirrus in Portugal years ago looked ok……it’s not just my girth that is bigger but mentally I don’t fit in a 7 metre boat anymore

 

[Wansworth]

Just occurred to me the idea of renting for the day a yacht in the ria de Vigo ,with wife cousin it wouldn’t cost too much I am sure

 

[Poignard]

Yours……please forward to Galicia

She's in Southern Brittany. You could collect....

 

[Wandering Star]

Out of what you say is your price range but the Vancouver 27 is the perfect boat for you, your wife would like it too. If you could find one a 274 would be the tops.

Of all the boats I ever owned, my favourite was my V27 Wandering Star. I sailed her far & wide including a Transat, swapped her for something larger and bought her back again a year later! Ill health forced me to sell her again and with improved health now I’d buy another V27 if I wasn’t skint! A proper boat by any measure!

 

[Wansworth]

She's in Southern Brittany. You could collect....

 

[LittleSister]

A Vancouver 27 strikes me as a nice boat (just the sort of thing I would have dreamed of a few years back) for passage making, but I'm not sure such a boat is necessary, or perhaps even desirable, for wafting around the rias.

 

[Wansworth]

A Vancouver 27 strikes me as a nice boat (just the sort of thing I would have dreamed of a few years back) for passage making, but I'm not such a boat is necessary, or perhaps even desirable, for wafting around the rias.

No I think you are right I think I have given up dreams of ocean crossings and the reality is it has to be affordable and not just the buying price but the running costs which unfortunately brings us back to a smaller boat.Will have to investigate if we can keep say a26 footer

 

[rotrax]

Today we went on another boat looking at outing and came away with negative thoughts.Although the boat seemed ok in the ad the reality was something way too small and cramped.Sitting and thinking about this I think is that Idont fit in my youth ,I have too much baggage to fit in a small yacht.In my younger days I was at home in a 15 foot double ended but now this latest 23 footer had hardly any room.over the years I have gained a wife ,measurably more volume and acquired levels of comfort that don’t fit in a small boat.I have to come to terms with the idea I cannot return to my youth and need a bigger boat at least 27 foot to hold my dream of going back to sea…….now to convince the wife

Stop pissing about and find a decent Gilbert Marine GibSea 96 Master.

If that does not give you the space, sailing ability and quality you want at a sensible price you will never buy a boat as long as you have a hole......................................................you know the rest

You will find the 96 has a huge internal volume, sails well and is of a decent build quality. You are dead a long time and as Billy Connoly says "You spend a lot of time looking at the coffin lid"

Buy something a little larger than you need or think you can afford and grow into it!

 

[Wansworth]

Stop pissing about and find a decent Gilbert Marine GibSea 96 Master.

If that does not give you the space, sailing ability and quality you want at a sensible price you will never buy a boat as long as you have a hole......................................................you know the rest

Sage advice

 

[LittleSister]

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