Non-Exploding Hosepipe for Marina Use

[Habebty]

Can anyone recommend a hosepipe suitable for boat/marina use. So far, in the last 18months I have exploded with varying degrees of comedic effect, 4 expandable hoses and one green garden type hose. The water pressure in the local marinas is quite high. Also, the cheap hoses seem to blow the connectors off, which can also be entertaining trying to catch the demented snaking end.
Have tried B&Q (twice), Hozelock(lasted slightly longer), Lidl (this one did the full comedy expanding balloon prior to exploding), garden type hose bought at marina( had to cut 2 inches off every 5 minutes as it kept exploding at the connector).

 

[Sticky Fingers]

I’ve used Hozelock expanding with no problems for years, despite the serious pressure deployed by Premier on the pontoons.

 

[Martin_J]

My two Hozelock expanding ones both burst this summer.

One had been used solely on the boat and one only in the garden. Both bought at the same time five or six years ago and both burst within a week of each other this summer. Weird. A bit light headlamp bulbs blowing within weeks of each other.

I've just bought the Hozelock micro reel for the boat, purely because of its nice compact size. I thought being small bore might be a problem for the pressure washer but it worked fine.

Sorry can't help on how long it'll last. Maybe I'll report back in eight years.

 

[Martin_J]

Intriguing.. Hozelock don't recommend use of their expanding hose with pressure washers.

Odd... The one on the boat was always used with a pressure washer. The one in the garden used only once with a pressure washer.

It didn't make much difference to how long each one lasted.

 

[penfold]

Can anyone recommend a hosepipe suitable for boat/marina use. So far, in the last 18months I have exploded with varying degrees of comedic effect, 4 expandable hoses and one green garden type hose. The water pressure in the local marinas is quite high. Also, the cheap hoses seem to blow the connectors off, which can also be entertaining trying to catch the demented snaking end.
Have tried B&Q (twice), Hozelock(lasted slightly longer), Lidl (this one did the full comedy expanding balloon prior to exploding), garden type hose bought at marina( had to cut 2 inches off every 5 minutes as it kept exploding at the connector).

Get a PRV, then turn the pressure down to what you need/the hose will stand.

 

[lustyd]

Get a PRV, then turn the pressure down to what you need/the hose will stand.

Surely this does the same as the tap? Taps aren’t binary!

 

[Boathook]

Surely this does the same as the tap? Taps aren’t binary!

The tap will restrict the flow but zero flow through the hose means full pressure. A PRV should control the pressure but not the flow.

 

[Plum]

Can anyone recommend a hosepipe suitable for boat/marina use. So far, in the last 18months I have exploded with varying degrees of comedic effect, 4 expandable hoses and one green garden type hose. The water pressure in the local marinas is quite high. Also, the cheap hoses seem to blow the connectors off, which can also be entertaining trying to catch the demented snaking end.
Have tried B&Q (twice), Hozelock(lasted slightly longer), Lidl (this one did the full comedy expanding balloon prior to exploding), garden type hose bought at marina( had to cut 2 inches off every 5 minutes as it kept exploding at the connector).

In my experience even the so-called "tuffhoze" from Hozelock is not durable at all. Tuffhoze | Hozelock Ltd | The NEW Advanced Hybrid Garden Hose so I am also looking.....

Www.solocoastalsailing.co.uk

 

[Daydream believer]

I have had the same lay flat hose on a reel for 8+ years. Surely the problem is that the OP is allowing pressure to build up in the hose. Even if the supply tap is on low the water will eventually pressurise the hose if the outlet is closed.
I never shut the outlet end, but allow the water to flow.However, I get on with the job, not waving it about in the breeze wasting water. If scrubbing the deck I soak the deck & wash off some of the initial dirt. Then fill a square bucket with water & a cleaning solution. Turn the hose off at the supply & dip the Brush in the bucket. It saves water & the cleaner does its job better.
Obviously, if filling the tank, one just lets the water run until full, then turns off at the supply.
When finished I do lay the hose out along the pontoon & lift one end waist high & grip between thumb & forefinger & run it along the hose to remove as much water as possible. That helps it fit the reel better. Plus storing over winter where any water will not freeze & split the hose helps, as I found out some years ago.

 

[lustyd]

In my experience even the so-called "tuffhoze" from Hozelock is not durable at all. Tuffhoze | Hozelock Ltd | The NEW Advanced Hybrid Garden Hose so I am also looking.....

Www.solocoastalsailing.co.uk

To be fair that looks designed to be less durable than standard garden hose. Their main selling point is that it's lighter, and the fabric makes the very thin PVC hose less prone to problems.

 

[Martin_J]

All this talk about expanding hoses, I'd forgotten I have a food grade 20m flat hose (bought from a chandlery) that I use for filling the tanks with .. It has outlasted the expanding hoses by a good few years.

I only then bought the expanding one because I didn't like the idea of cleaning the starling mess off the decks with the same hose used for filing the tanks. (I know you don't use the hose itself to clean, but it does drag over the deck that's being cleaned!)

Can't recall the make but looks identical to this




A bit of a pain reeling in the last few metres, but by cutting a few metres off the end it's now easier (and replacing the fittings with true hozelock stuff it fits fittings easier). It's been good, although more bulky than my new microbore.

 

[dunedin]

All this talk about expanding hoses, I'd forgotten I have a food grade 20m flat hose (bought from a chandlery) that I use for filling the tanks with .. It has outlasted the expanding hoses by a good few years.

I only then bought the expanding one because I didn't like the idea of cleaning the starling mess off the decks with the same hose used for filing the tanks. (I know you don't use the hose itself to clean, but it does drag over the deck that's being cleaned!)

Can't recall the make but looks identical to this

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A bit of a pain reeling in the last few metres, but by cutting a few metres off the end it's now easier (and replacing the fittings with true hozelock stuff it fits fittings easier). It's been good, although more bulky than my new microbore.

I also have that reel hose, now 8 years old and going fine (though reel has lost its handle)

 

[ashtead]

Presumably you could buy hose of the type used by the staff in your local garden centre (but won’t be sold there) which has a much thicker wall but no doubt heavy and pricey . Personally have a cassette type in locker but rarely used as the expanding type living in the garden centre plastic double handle bucket when stored does job and much lighter than a reel type and no rewinding on to cassette. Also have a short cheap green garden length about 10 metres which has a life of its own but useful for odd jobs in boatyard/garden and for 2 lengths was abou£5 I recall. I guess weight for what you need might be an issue depending on length.

 

[Daydream believer]

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A bit of a pain reeling in the last few metres, but by cutting a few metres off the end it's now easier (and replacing the fittings with true hozelock stuff it fits fittings easier). It's been good, although more bulky than my new microbore.

That is the sort I have - Bought from Camping & General on Canvey Island- So probably cheaper.
The problem you had with coiling, could be easily solved by draining the water as I described in #9 above It also reduces the amount of water left laying in the hose which cannot be a bad thing. The reel makes stowage better & reduce damage to the hose.

 

[Martin_J]

I didn't quite do that squeeze.

I always connected a nozzle to one of the stop ends, laid it out in a straight/ flat line on the pontoon and therefore let the water run out as it was wound in.

By taking a few metres of the end, you don't lose much but it still saves that last turn or two getting tight (and from potentially snapping the handle off).

 

[Daydream believer]

By taking a few metres of the end, you don't lose much

I paid for it & I ain't gonna waste it

 

[Martin_J]

I didn't want crew winding it in, then struggling with the last couple of metres and breaking the handle off..

I'm sure I kept the few spare metres that were cut off, just like I've kept the fabric jacket that covered the two broken expandable hoses. I thought maybe one day they might make a good cover for a stainless wire based dinghy lock.

Any other suggestions for what we can do with the old expanding hose fabric? Seems a waste to chuck it.

 

[Habebty]

All this talk about expanding hoses, I'd forgotten I have a food grade 20m flat hose (bought from a chandlery) that I use for filling the tanks with .. It has outlasted the expanding hoses by a good few years.

I only then bought the expanding one because I didn't like the idea of cleaning the starling mess off the decks with the same hose used for filing the tanks. (I know you don't use the hose itself to clean, but it does drag over the deck that's being cleaned!)

Can't recall the make but looks identical to this

View attachment 163062


A bit of a pain reeling in the last few metres, but by cutting a few metres off the end it's now easier (and replacing the fittings with true hozelock stuff it fits fittings easier). It's been good, although more bulky than my new microbore.

Yes, I’ve had one of those but the price seems to have doubled where I have looked. I reckon I’ll have to bite the bullet on that one.

 

[Habebty]

I have had the same lay flat hose on a reel for 8+ years. Surely the problem is that the OP is allowing pressure to build up in the hose. Even if the supply tap is on low the water will eventually pressurise the hose if the outlet is closed.
I never shut the outlet end, but allow the water to flow.However, I get on with the job, not waving it about in the breeze wasting water. If scrubbing the deck I soak the deck & wash off some of the initial dirt. Then fill a square bucket with water & a cleaning solution. Turn the hose off at the supply & dip the Brush in the bucket. It saves water & the cleaner does its job better.
Obviously, if filling the tank, one just lets the water run until full, then turns off at the supply.
When finished I do lay the hose out along the pontoon & lift one end waist high & grip between thumb & forefinger & run it along the hose to remove as much water as possible. That helps it fit the reel better. Plus storing over winter where any water will not freeze & split the hose helps, as I found out some years ago.

Yes, I do all that too, jet washing seems to cause the biggest issue but the hose still doesn’t last long enough to fill a tank sometimes. Strangely, I had one cassette reel hose that lasted about 20 years from the old version of Homebase (“Inhome” I think it was then).

 

[Daydream believer]

I didn't want crew winding it in, then struggling with the last couple of metres and breaking the handle off..

I'm sure I kept the few spare metres that were cut off, just like I've kept the fabric jacket that covered the two broken expandable hoses. I thought maybe one day they might make a good cover for a stainless wire based dinghy lock.

Any other suggestions for what we can do with the old expanding hose fabric? Seems a waste to chuck it.

I think that you should hang on to it. Like many things - It is handy even if you never need it