Non DIY Maintenance tasks/costs for 32-36ft yacht

[salad]

2 kids and 2 adults on a 32 foot boat my idea of hell, 2 speed winches will take care of sheet loads on a bigger boat.

It's not just the size. Once you hit 40' the costs appear to increase exponentially and this is supposed to be dipping our toe in the water rather than going yawls deep into something we really haven't much exposure to.

 

[Frogmogman]

2 kids and 2 adults on a 32 foot boat my idea of hell…..

Monsieur est bien embourgeoisé.

 

[Fr J Hackett]

It's not just the size. Once you hit 40' the costs appear to increase exponentially and this is supposed to be dipping our toe in the water rather than going yawls deep into something we really haven't much exposure to.

There is good reason that modern boats are so popular, it’s the availability of separate cabins. Once you have shared a boat with 4 people, rearranging the saloon every morning and night listening to all their emissions , sharing everything even if they you closest friends or children the experience quickly loses its pleasure.

 

[salad]

There is good reason that modern boats are so popular, it’s the availability of separate cabins. Once you have shared a boat with 4 people, rearranging the saloon every morning and night listening to all their emissions , sharing everything even if they you closest friends or children the experience quickly loses its pleasure.

I think you just described home life with children in general, except at home, theres much more to rearrange.

 

[SaltyC]

I think you just described home life with children in general, except at home, theres much more to rearrange.

I completely agree with you, family 2 + 2 on 32' perfectly acceptable - 2 older teens may pose some challenges, however under mid teens all loads are manageable so they can run the boat whilst you and first mate drink coffee.
I recently upgraded from 31 to 37, shorthanded the 31 was a doddle, 37 need to think more.
Despite comments previously msde by others I had the 31 for 12 very enjoyable years, would have taken it anywhere with complete confidence. Still miss her.
37, slightly more modern design same make, bigger, faster, more comfortable BUT if the weather cut up rough, shorthanded I would take the 31 anytime. Well, except motoring to windward - the 2 bladed folding egg whisk left a lot to be desired.

 

[salad]

I completely agree with you, family 2 + 2 on 32' perfectly acceptable - 2 older teens may pose some challenges, however under mid teens all loads are manageable so they can run the boat whilst you and first mate drink coffee.
I recently upgraded from 31 to 37, shorthanded the 31 was a doddle, 37 need to think more.
Despite comments previously msde by others I had the 31 for 12 very enjoyable years, would have taken it anywhere with complete confidence. Still miss her.
37, slightly more modern design same make, bigger, faster, more comfortable BUT if the weather cut up rough, shorthanded I would take the 31 anytime. Well, except motoring to windward - the 2 bladed folding egg whisk left a lot to be desired.

What did you go for in the end, for your 37? If you dont mind me asking.

 

[SaltyC]

What did you go for in the end, for your 37? If you dont mind me asking.

Brought up with 'proper' yachts in the 60's and 70's spent a long time looking at AWB's, flat bottoms with no bilges or forefoot finally plumped for a HR31. More than happy so replacement (centre cockpit, safe for toddlers aka Grandkids) was a HR37.

 

[Daydream believer]

I have a 31 ft boat & the max number to avoid hassle is 3. Any more & one is playing with a Rubics cube. 31 ft is great for 2 & they can live on it for month. 3 just make it so much more difficult & 2 weeks is enough
Go for the 37 ft minimum for 4 . Much more comfort when sailing. Less bouncy & gets where you want to go quicker, which is better for kids.

 

[salad]

Brought up with 'proper' yachts in the 60's and 70's spent a long time looking at AWB's, flat bottoms with no bilges or forefoot finally plumped for a HR31. More than happy so replacement (centre cockpit, safe for toddlers aka Grandkids) was a HR37.

Very nice but out of my league for a first yacht I think.

 

[ashtead]

You might look at an older HR 352 , I was moored next to one the other day on its way back from Canaries -I think you just have to be prepared to live with/remove/replace elderly teak decks etc . It has a low sail area so would not frighten the family etc

 

[Tranona]

While an HR 37 (and similar upmarket centre cockpit boats) are lovely for couples and for long distance sailing, their price puts them out of reach for most families with children. Better perhaps are the many 34-38' AWBs with twin aft cabins. This keeps sleeping space separate from living space. Forecabins are large enough for parents and if children are small they might share one aft cabin and leave the other for storage or if larger have their own private cabin - opposite end of the boat from parents! Plenty of choice from the 3 main production builders and their boats are easy to handle and fine for most peoples' cruising.

 

[Stemar]

I think it was Denny DeSouter who described a boat as taking two in comfort, three in discomfort and five in mortal enmity.

 

[jwilson]

If your computer meets the specs, I'd really give Da Vinci a try. It's used to edit hollywood movies, including blockbusters. A serious product, but depending on your setup, it may offer benefits in terms of managing media and possibly, speed of editing, but being a complex package, will take time to learn. Whats nice about it is that the free version has very reasonable limits as to what you can do without paying, plenty for the likes of you or I, but they also offer pro level features with all sorts of CGI (think Transformers movies...) and editing desks costing as much as a yacht!

Saving every few minutes is good practice regardless, as is editing from an SSD, if possible. Goodness knows SSD's speed things up tremendously, as does a lot of DRAM.

I'll PM you a link to a video I edited with it. I think I'd only been using it a week or so at the time. It's relatable to what you're doing and like you I had hours of footage to compress down with cuts and edits.

I'm not on commission, promise but it's so good and I know video editing can be such a PITA with all manner of products. The pro's use really only two, Adobe Premier I think it is, and Da Vinci. Thats as far as I understand anyway.

You need a pretty seriously powerful computer to use da Vinci. Also the learning curve is quite steep.

 

[SaltyC]

I think it was Denny DeSouter who described a boat as taking two in comfort, three in discomfort and five in mortal enmity.

Completely agree, for my 31' can I add 1 in Luxury! Although we did have 5 adults for one memorable stag weekend!!
See attached - the mood changed somewhat when we left the lee of the land!!

 

[salad]

You need a pretty seriously powerful computer to use da Vinci. Also the learning curve is quite steep.

Computer power wise, if you're not editing 4k, its demanding'ish, but not too terrible. I thought the learning curve was pretty OK (for basic competence), but then I suppose I'm from a software background.

 

[Dutch01527]

I have a 33 foot boat and would expect to spend about £2k a year on maintenance and upgrades but I do simple jobs myself and leave the nasty or difficult jobs to local shipyard. Would probably be double that if everything was done by the professional. This excludes major upgrades such as standing rigging or engine.

I have a swing mooring in Dartmouth at about £1000 per year. So about £4000 per year including insurance, harbour taxis, marinas, diesel ect.

Price of a decent holiday abroad which I think is great value.