Lakesailor
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At Ferry House, Windermere
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Nice Set of Fenders
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sunquest
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'you dirty ole man you' /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
andy_wilson
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Ah yes...
T1T Friday, There were loads around.
N1PPLE Wednesday was better. Nice sunny day but the air temperature was deceptively cool!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
T1T Friday, There were loads around.
N1PPLE Wednesday was better. Nice sunny day but the air temperature was deceptively cool!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Rustyknight
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Does she use fender socks to stop them from squeaking all night?
Lakesailor
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I reckon if she rolled them against a jetty, they may pop out.
Judders
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We have a girl in the office to whom we refer as 'fenders'. It's a company boat trip tonight so perhaps we can test the theory.
peterb26
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Dont get me wrong but in the politically correct UK can't you get into serious grief for sticking a photo of someone onto a web site without their permission - unless its a "news item" and "in the public interest"??
I know on the other local forum I use, if we posted that picture without stating "we have permission from those in the picture to do this" - then it would be post deleted pretty quickly.....
Personally I think the PC stuff has gone way too far but I just wonder what the legal position is?
Anybody know?
I know on the other local forum I use, if we posted that picture without stating "we have permission from those in the picture to do this" - then it would be post deleted pretty quickly.....
Personally I think the PC stuff has gone way too far but I just wonder what the legal position is?
Anybody know?
jhr
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I think the first complaint would be to the FBA, who run the webcam, for making the pix available online. But presumably there's a sign up, somewhere by the camera, saying "Smile! You're on webcam". If not, and a complaint was made then - I agree - someone might be in trouble but I doubt that Lakeyvision would be first in line for the firing squad.
Anyway, studying new developments in fender technology is a legitimate area of public interest and debate /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Anyway, studying new developments in fender technology is a legitimate area of public interest and debate /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
peterb26
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Absolutely agreed JHR. /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
Chris_Robb
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no - just fairy liquid!
johnalison
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It used to be the case that you could photograph anyone in a public place with impunity. The French passed a law against this a few years ago but I suspect the position in this country has not been fully tested recently. It probably comes down to a question of manners, whatever they are; I've forgotten.
akirk
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...but I just wonder what the legal position is?
Anybody know?
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If not for commercial use, and not invading their privacy, nowt they can do about it...
so - if on their own property, you can't
- if in public, you can
- if you then use photo to imply endorsement of your product - you need a model release
UK law is pretty easy going ref. taking photos (though Ken Livingstone & lots of security guards around London don't seem to know the law and try and stop you taking photos, though if you are a tourist it is not a problem!)
...but I just wonder what the legal position is?
Anybody know?
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If not for commercial use, and not invading their privacy, nowt they can do about it...
so - if on their own property, you can't
- if in public, you can
- if you then use photo to imply endorsement of your product - you need a model release
UK law is pretty easy going ref. taking photos (though Ken Livingstone & lots of security guards around London don't seem to know the law and try and stop you taking photos, though if you are a tourist it is not a problem!)
l'escargot
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Dont get me wrong but in the politically correct UK can't you get into serious grief for sticking a photo of someone onto a web site without their permission,,,
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Basically, as long as they were in a public place when the photo was taken, no problem. The only possible problem could be from libel laws if the person was recognisable and untrue things were said about them - I don't think that would be an issue in this case. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Dont get me wrong but in the politically correct UK can't you get into serious grief for sticking a photo of someone onto a web site without their permission,,,
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Basically, as long as they were in a public place when the photo was taken, no problem. The only possible problem could be from libel laws if the person was recognisable and untrue things were said about them - I don't think that would be an issue in this case. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Major Catastrophe
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I am glad that has been clarified as I spent five minutes looking for two guitars on the back seats of one of the cars.
Oliveoyl
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And I thought "fenders" was in the US sense, ie attached to front and back of all the cars in the queue, sorry, line
bumblefish
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Following on from the mooring warp debate, nice breasts, where are the fore and aft springs?
Lakesailor
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Yes, as others have said. If you are in the public domain in the UK and are photographed then you have no rights in that image unless they are used to libel or defame you.
You can't photograph out side a High Court when in session (try telling the media that) or an establishment covered by the Official Secrets Act or from private property to which you have not been granted access and permission to photograph.
Even if you are in a private place a photographer can photograph you provided he is stood in a public place.
All the privacy issues which are brought to court are using other statutes which can be "made to fit" the circumstances.
Hello, there's someone knocking at the door................... /forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif
You can't photograph out side a High Court when in session (try telling the media that) or an establishment covered by the Official Secrets Act or from private property to which you have not been granted access and permission to photograph.
Even if you are in a private place a photographer can photograph you provided he is stood in a public place.
All the privacy issues which are brought to court are using other statutes which can be "made to fit" the circumstances.
Hello, there's someone knocking at the door................... /forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif
suse
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well, I've often wondered about taking pictures of other people without asking - I should have known to ask here - but now I know! Thanks, peeps.
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Rustyknight
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Having said that, the person being photographed may not understand the law and proceed to give you a slapping........
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Yes, as others have said. If you are in the public domain in the UK and are photographed then you have no rights in that image unless they are used to libel or defame you.
You can't photograph out side a High Court when in session (try telling the media that) or an establishment covered by the Official Secrets Act or from private property to which you have not been granted access and permission to photograph.
Even if you are in a private place a photographer can photograph you provided he is stood in a public place.
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I pretty much agree with all that, though I'd just add that even if the photographer is on private property then he can still take and use pictures unless he's been warned (eg. by a notice etc.) before photographing that it's a condition of entering/staying on the private property that he doesn't take pictures.
On public property, though you're pretty much free to photograph what you want (probably not soldiers or missile bases and I think not policemen though) there are always exceptions - the two well know ones are Trafalgar Square and South Bank where despite it being public property special bye-laws apply. So some jobsworth will tell you to move on if you try to set up a triipod there.
You can even use pictures of people or property taken without consent for commercial purposes, although you have to be careful of libel laws (eg. try using someone passing in the street in an anti-sexual transmitted disease campaign, and see how far you get), also the advertising standards code requires professionals in that industry to make sure there's a model release if used in advertising.
As someone else mentioned, France has draconian laws on this sort of thing now, so great French photographers like Henri Cartier Bresson, Doisneau, Lartigue etc. would nowadays be completely prohibited from taking the kind of pictures that made them famous.
Yes, as others have said. If you are in the public domain in the UK and are photographed then you have no rights in that image unless they are used to libel or defame you.
You can't photograph out side a High Court when in session (try telling the media that) or an establishment covered by the Official Secrets Act or from private property to which you have not been granted access and permission to photograph.
Even if you are in a private place a photographer can photograph you provided he is stood in a public place.
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I pretty much agree with all that, though I'd just add that even if the photographer is on private property then he can still take and use pictures unless he's been warned (eg. by a notice etc.) before photographing that it's a condition of entering/staying on the private property that he doesn't take pictures.
On public property, though you're pretty much free to photograph what you want (probably not soldiers or missile bases and I think not policemen though) there are always exceptions - the two well know ones are Trafalgar Square and South Bank where despite it being public property special bye-laws apply. So some jobsworth will tell you to move on if you try to set up a triipod there.
You can even use pictures of people or property taken without consent for commercial purposes, although you have to be careful of libel laws (eg. try using someone passing in the street in an anti-sexual transmitted disease campaign, and see how far you get), also the advertising standards code requires professionals in that industry to make sure there's a model release if used in advertising.
As someone else mentioned, France has draconian laws on this sort of thing now, so great French photographers like Henri Cartier Bresson, Doisneau, Lartigue etc. would nowadays be completely prohibited from taking the kind of pictures that made them famous.
