Newbie questions on Volvo Penta 2002

[Lulabelle]

I've just acquired an old Volvo Penta 2002 raw water cooled.

Today was the first time running it.

Is alot of water coming out from the exhaust a good thing? Is this how is gets rid of it's cooling water!

In an emergency, will they run fine of diesel from a local petrol station?


Cheers guys

Paul

 

[VicS]

I've just acquired an old Volvo Penta 2002 raw water cooled.

Today was the first time running it.

Is alot of water coming out from the exhaust a good thing? Is this how is gets rid of it's cooling water!

In an emergency, will they run fine of diesel from a local petrol station?


Cheers guys

Paul

Yes all the cooling water exits with the exhaust, cooling that as it does so. The time to worry and check things like the pump impeller is if/ when the water flow from the exhaust decreases.

Yes it will run on petrol station diesel.

 

[Lulabelle]

Nice one VicS... that was a quick reply and the answers I wanted to hear... very happy now.

Thanks

Paul

 

[NormanS]

Yes all the cooling water exits with the exhaust, cooling that as it does so. The time to worry and check things like the pump impeller is if/ when the water flow from the exhaust decreases.

Yes it will run on petrol station diesel. technically you are not now allowed to use "red diesel"

You might like to explain where you get the idea that we are now not allowed to use red diesel. That's news to me.

 

[VicS]

Nice one VicS... that was a quick reply and the answers I wanted to hear... very happy now.

Thanks

Paul

See here for the regulations surrounding the use of red ( duty free) diesel in pleasure craft: http://www.rya.org.uk/knowledge-advice/regulations/Pages/red-diesel.aspx

and http://www.rya.org.uk/newsevents/news/Pages/HMRCreddieselannouncement.aspx

 

[NormanS]

See here for the regulations surrounding the use of red ( duty free) diesel in pleasure craft: http://www.rya.org.uk/knowledge-advice/regulations/Pages/red-diesel.aspx

So, just to confirm that what you stated earlier (and have now edited out) was completely incorrect and misleading.
The official RYA statement confirms that provided the appropriate tax is paid, leisure craft are perfectly entitled to use red diesel.

 

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I've just acquired an old Volvo Penta 2002 raw water cooled.

Today was the first time running it.

Is alot of water coming out from the exhaust a good thing? Is this how is gets rid of it's cooling water!

In an emergency, will they run fine of diesel from a local petrol station?

Sounds like your engine is running just like mine.

I prefer white diesel from the local petrol station as getting hold of red is not easy where I am and I use so little, about 50l a year it is hardly work the difference in duty.

 

[Lulabelle]

Does anyone add additives or redex type stuff to the fuel? Does it make much difference to this type of engine?

Also, does an alarm go off if the raw water cooling gets blocked?

 

[DavidGrieves]

Does anyone add additives or redex type stuff to the fuel? Does it make much difference to this type of engine?

Also, does an alarm go off if the raw water cooling gets blocked?

Hi

No you won't get an alarm if the cooling water stops flowing. You will get an alarm when engine overheats, which is a bit too late.

You can fit aftermarket exhaust temperature sensors which will alarm when the exhaust temp goes up. I suppose it is possible to fit a paddle wheel type flow meter in the system which will alarm when water stops.

When you are familiar with your engine you will notice a different engine/exhaust sound when the water stops.

I always change the impellor every season. They aren't too expensive, and easy enough to change.

 

[KREW2]

I've just acquired an old Volvo Penta 2002 raw water cooled.

Today was the first time running it.

Is alot of water coming out from the exhaust a good thing? Is this how is gets rid of it's cooling water!

In an emergency, will they run fine of diesel from a local petrol station?


Cheers guys

Paul

Out of interest.
It obviously came with a boat, what type?

 

[Spuddy]

I got a 2002. Looks like you got the hang of starting procedure. A couple of others I know about fire on one cylinder for a few seconds before it picks up -how does yours do?

 

[Lulabelle]

Thanks for the replies guys... the engine came with a free boat, Westerly Tempest

This is my first inboard (Outboards before). I started it the first time yesterday. I needed to turn the engine over for about 15 seconds before I could hear the engine starting starting to turn on it's own. I still needed to keep pushing the button for a further 10 seconds maybe before the engine could run on it's own. I ran the engine for about 30 minutes, after that starting the engine took about 3 seconds of the starter motor. I used what I think they called 'cold start procedure'. Pulled the stop lever up. Put the throttle on full and engine in neutral. Push the stop lever down and push start button. Once the engine is turning over on it's own I then ease the throttle back keeping revs low but not too low that the engine stops. After about a minute, the engine ticks over no problems.
The engine smokes a little but... hey, it was born in 1989! I think it's entitled to smoke a bit and cough in the mornings

Paul

 

[eddystone]

Thanks for the replies guys... the engine came with a free boat, Westerly Tempest

This is my first inboard (Outboards before). I started it the first time yesterday. I needed to turn the engine over for about 15 seconds before I could hear the engine starting starting to turn on it's own. I still needed to keep pushing the button for a further 10 seconds maybe before the engine could run on it's own. I ran the engine for about 30 minutes, after that starting the engine took about 3 seconds of the starter motor. I used what I think they called 'cold start procedure'. Pulled the stop lever up. Put the throttle on full and engine in neutral. Push the stop lever down and push start button. Once the engine is turning over on it's own I then ease the throttle back keeping revs low but not too low that the engine stops. After about a minute, the engine ticks over no problems.
The engine smokes a little but... hey, it was born in 1989! I think it's entitled to smoke a bit and cough in the mornings

Paul

1989 - that's not that old. Does it continue to smoke when it's running or just white smoke for the first few minutes or so?

 

[Lulabelle]

I've just ran in sat on the marina pontoon for about an hour. It has smoked all that time. Looks like white smoke, definitely not black. I've seen alot worse in the marina

The smoke is just kinda sitting on the surface of the water less then a metre in diameter and then disperses.

I'm hoping that's normal!

Paul

 

[eddystone]

I've just ran in sat on the marina pontoon for about an hour. It has smoked all that time. Looks like white smoke, definitely not black. I've seen alot worse in the marina

The smoke is just kinda sitting on the surface of the water less then a metre in diameter and then disperses.

I'm hoping that's normal!

Paul

Unfortunately white smoke can be a number of things and not easy to diagnose - could be overcooling and represents tiny droplets of fuel not burnt or overheating and it's actually steam.

 

[Tranona]

If you are going to run it for that length of time while tied up, best to put load on it by engaging forward gear. Long periods of no load running are not good. You may well find the white exhaust improves under load and the engine reaches operating temperature quicker.

 

[AntarcticPilot]

If you are going to run it for that length of time while tied up, best to put load on it by engaging forward gear. Long periods of no load running are not good. You may well find the white exhaust improves under load and the engine reaches operating temperature quicker.

As others have noted, white smoke is in general not a worry with these engines - mine (a 2003 - same engine with an extra cylinder!) has always produced white smoke on starting, and it seems to be endemic with the Volvo 200x series; they all seem to produce a little white smoke, and as Tranona says, it improves to vanishing point as the engine warms up. I always run mine under load if running it for any length of time - if you're bow on to a pontoon, then running it in reverse gear is the wisest thing, so that if your warps break (Highly unlikely!) you'll have a bit of space to react in!

When I got it, mine produced a lot of white smoke all the time. However, a good clean of the waterways reduced it a lot - there's a tube with holes in it running from front to back of the cylinder head, and the holes get blocked fairly readily. I cleaned mine with the head off, but I understand that the tube can be removed for cleaning without removing the cylinder head. I also gave it a clean by putting dilute hydrochloric acid in via the thermostat housing and leaving it for an hour. Remove the engine anode before doing this; it will dissolve rapidly in acid!

 

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The white smoke may just have been because of a cold day, i.e. Condensation.
I usually 'pump' the stop lever twice, to squirt fuel into the cylinders for an easier cold start. Mine starts on one cylinder for a few seconds before the second kicks in, as mentioned above. It's not let me down or even hiccuped in three seasons. Dates from 1988.

 

[Lulabelle]

Thanks for the advice guys....

Once the weather improves and I have fulfilled all my Christmas obligations I'll take it for a good blast down the Clyde.

Paul

 

[KREW2]

I've just ran in sat on the marina pontoon for about an hour. It has smoked all that time. Looks like white smoke, definitely not black. I've seen alot worse in the marina

The smoke is just kinda sitting on the surface of the water less then a metre in diameter and then disperses.

I'm hoping that's normal!

Paul

Mine does that on idle after starting, it disperses after a few minutes under load.
Starts on cold days can be long winded, if it doesn't go on the first attempt you have to repeat the cold start procedure.
I have improved starting on mine, down to about five seconds on a cold day. This was done by adding a dedicated high cold cranking amp starting battery. I bought one of these http://www.mdsbattery.co.uk/shop/productprofile.asp?ProductGroupID=8557 bit pricey but worth it. It is small, and can be installed in any orientation.