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Re: Please play nicely Haydn

erm, stay in? Snuggle by the fire, open some champagne, put on your favourite film and eat lots of choccy vodka shots ...... works for me /forums/images/icons/smile.gif

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Boats with old petrol engines suck.Avoid at all costs unless your boating takes place with the river bank a metre of two away on both sides.The super reliable petrol outboards that grace the back of your rib are a world away from the stuff that usually lurk in older powercraft.With raw water cooling the things rot from the inside.Weak point of volvo and worse the Mercruiser is the riser unit.They corrode quietly inside slowly clogging up until total blockage occurs and stuffed engine results. If you are lucky enough to be able to afford a newish boat,fine.
go for diesel if you can.
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Re: Please play nicely Haydn

Quote from the "CLUB" site "I WILL ADVISE BY RADIO WHEN WE ENTER THE SHIPPING LANE " WHAT????? Is this a picnic outing???? Sorry Lifeboat fodder me thinks .Please note going to the scillies is OCEAN GOING!!
Sorry for rant but each boat should but capable of the crossing on its own and not rely on others for Nav info or seamanship .

Terry

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Re: Please play nicely Haydn

Hardly think the Scillies is ocean going, it's only about 30 miles after all. So they should do it in an hour. I'm just saying that I found it quite taxing enough for a 35ft boat. Not particularly for bad weather although it was not good when we came back, with about f5 and fog. The problem I see, is getting stuck there for days, if not weeks.

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Re: Please play nicely Haydn

Ah ! but 30miles ,300miles or 3000miles makes no different .Its the sea worthiness of the boat that counts. Heaven forbid but if one boat has trouble that 1hour could turn out to be 10hours .I, like you , have done the trip several times and seen the atlantic swell that can develope.If you've not got speed in a lightweight boat you've got nuffin . IMHO of course . All I'm saying is that its a trip that should not be taken lightly and if you've got to be told when you're crossing the shipping lane you shouldn't ought to be there.

Terry

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Re: Please play nicely Haydn

Strewth, the levels of pedantry on these forums never ceases to amaze me. It was an intial document put together by a club member who has been a commerical boater in that area, to discuss the possibility of making the trip. It's not a briefing document. It's also not the club website - where did anyone (other than you?) make this claim.

No one will be allowed to go that doesn't have the competence or equipment to safely make the crossing. By the way, I know all the people going, and their craft, so how are you qualified to make comments on whether they have the experience to be going, over that of the club?

On the other hand, we have had donkeys years of experience of running events in small fast powerboats, and we, unlike you?, know that boats can be strung out over several miles quite quickly. We gather at waypoints to bring everyone back together, and do a headcount to make sure no one is missing with problems. A good waypoint is before a shipping lane, to ensure the 'fleet' crosses together presenting less of a target to commercial shipping.

The experienced helm of our events, is always someone who knows the area, and has local experience.

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Re: Please play nicely Haydn

Well not seen their site, so cant comment. But your right, it's no place to be messing about. You cant do much to help others in that stuff.

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Haydn
 
Re: Please play nicely Haydn

You never told me that Harry had been doing corispondence courses.../forums/images/icons/laugh.gif

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Haydn
 
Re: Please play nicely Haydn

Well he had to learn how to type messages on the forum in your absence /forums/images/icons/laugh.gif

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Re: Please play nicely Haydn

Bugger. I told him the office was out of bounds.

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Haydn
 
Re: Please play nicely Haydn

It's time you got back to the panto. You've been boncing Windy quite long enough.

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Re: Please play nicely Haydn

We have a bit of a continuity problem with the scenario you raised. I was zapped by Kim, and am in the sin bin, and BarryH and Happy have my boat. So, it cannot have been me you picked up on Muckyfarter. Yet another imposter I suspect

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Re: Please play nicely Haydn

Glad I'v amazed you cos you certainly amazed me!! Pedantry?? Some of us have a lot of sea experience some of us read about it some of us dream about it which category do you fit into ? I'm in the first .
I did say IMHO which everyone is entitled to have .Sorry mate I still stand by my comments whether you like 'em or not .

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Re: Please play nicely Haydn

You only have to read my posts on here to know I travel far and wide on my boat.If you're implying that I make up stories about my trips, and am an armchair traveller then just ask the other forumites here that have met me on voyages. You claim you're in the first category, but you could simply be making that up as far as I know, and are simply trying to start another raggie attempt to portray motorboaters as unknowlegable and incompetent.

Anyway, if you'd read the document properly, you'd have noticed the very first line says - "This is an outline plan only to ratify the concept and feasibility of such a club trip"

We've discovered there is enough interest to make the trip worth planning. Next stage is for the committee and cruising secretaries to assess if it should be put on the official list of club events next year (which it is not yet). Sorry if this is all too sensible for your tabloid screaming headline approach with big letters, flaming what you have decided is an unprofessional approach.

If you go and have a look at the cruising section of ribnet, you'll see that such trips are not uncommon in small craft, they did one last year, with some members going to and from the Scillies directly from Lymington, and we're not the only group to do such things.

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Re: Please play nicely Haydn

I certainly wasn't implying that you "made up stories" about your trips I have read many of your sea epics(the ones I have seen have been coastal trips) and have no doubts of their accuracy but cruising along the coast is nothing like crossing to Scilly .However it has to be said that anyone can turn a key point a boat in the right direction ,open a throttle and go anywhere reading a GPS .Its when it all goes "belly up"sea time counts.(Im in no way trying to belittle your achievements though)Question you have to ask is---Would you do the Scilly trip on your own .??
Regarding possible doubts -----you can safely Take my word for it ,I'm in the first category!! (no need for me to tell stories either)
So such trips have been organised and under taken before what point are you trying to make?That ribs and small motor boats are seakindly??? hope you dont have to find out.
now lets see you excited about that.

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Re: Please play nicely Haydn

The point I'm making is that small boats quite regularly go to such places.Safely, and without drama.

Our club doesn't just do coastal cruises - cross channel, is usually on the list of events for the year (but like the proposed Scillies trip only actually occurs if the weather is favourable), and there is a wealth of offshore cruising experience. Some years back, before starter boats started getting bigger, 17'ers made the x-channel crossing quite happily.

In fact a couple of club members (one the Chairman) went to the Channel Islands and back from Chichester, in a day, a little while back, just for fun.

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Re: Please play nicely Haydn

I'm sure long trips have been made in small mobos and got away with it. Guess we will never agree on this one !
I do wish you and your companions a safe trip and do take care .
Thanks for whiling away the evening in exchange of posts .No hard feeling -----I hope .

Terry

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Re: Please play nicely Haydn

I never hold hard feelings against anyone on the forums. Half the fun (and point) of the forums is an exchange of views!

If the club trip doesn't get off the grounds, I'll probably go anyway (along with the guy who wrote the proposal, and you can read all about it here when I get back.

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Re: Please play nicely Haydn

Look forward to reading it! Never know might see you down there! Not trying to be pedantic but sail down there often.
If you're ever in my area and see my boat ( look in Jan PBO Page 3 Piccy) give us a shout !!

Terry

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Re: Please play nicely Haydn

I spent about 10 days in the West Country boating last year, and hope to up that dramatically this year. I'll holler when I'm down there, and maybe meet for a beer or two. It's always great meeting forumites.

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