New or old ?

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Wo'nt get one with teak decks though!

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".. mm ... really fancy a Sadler 34 after sailing the Sadler 29 at the weekend .. "

There is the difference between night and day between the 29 and the 34 - the extra 5' makes a lot of difference - If you liked the 29, I would be suprised if you did not fall in love with a 34 - mind you I think sleeping 9 people on a 34 is a bit much.

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thocht it wiz the tiller that attracted ra missus which made me wonder whether ra missus had sailed GR recently as it goes where you point it since rudder fixed? lot of downwind/broad reach sailing which might make any boat look and feel good?

Note from foredeck crew: not impressed with space up front albeit only 29 ft

hopefully not bilge keeler as couldn't put up with the keels pounding when beating ..

i passed a sadler 34 one day and sailed the knickers off it which means a) the sadler was not sailed verra well (he was trying, though, i think) or b) fluke as never done it agin ...

fajitas would never be the same ....

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"The 34, however, was an all new design (by Martin S I think) and is not at all like the rather sweet handling 26 or 29. I too would be a bit suspicious of foam filling by now."

Don't know if I agree, but maybe I am biased, owning a sadler 34 (foam filled variety) No problems with the filling loads of storage - it is easy to forget where something has been put - Just had a survey done only annoying thing is the fore deck springing which will be fixed in a few weeks. Well laid out even if "old fashioned" not the fastest thing on the water nor perhaps the best cruiser of her size but a good all rounder and takes the rough on her stride. There is something reassuring in the knowledge she won't actually sink if I accidently fill her with water.

Family of 5 onboard (3 generations) with all the gear for a 4 week cruise and still empty storage space (ok I travel light).

Best thing is to look around, if possible get a sail on different boats, decide what you want it for and what you plan to do with it then decide what suites you best. Everyone has their own opinion of what is "best" as I said maybe I am biased but I certainly would not discount a sadler 34 out of hand. Don't see too many up for sale though so maybe those that have them have found their "ideal" boat?

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You think that's bad, I was originally going to post old people carriers ! (I can hear the muttering now)

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Jimi

We were of the same opnion as yourself. It'll be time to change up next season and last October had a look at a Sadler 34 in Kip and another in Oban

I know it has remarkable (compared to our current boat) sailing abilities but to be honest- and this is nothing against the marque or other Sadler 34 owners, it just felt 'old-fashioned' even against our own boat which was eight years older.

i know some of that has to do with my wife's good eye (no pun intended) for interior upgrades - but brown vinyl seat cushions and light brown headlining look wrong - screw holes in bulkheads where previous owners pictures have hung....

Now. Against all that I know I'm going to have to spend - to me- serious money for another boat - I'll not be able to afford new - but I think you have to be very careful on how 'old'. I would think that for example the Sadler we looked at would be entirely 'fixable' I would assume that it would get a good hull and deck survey and everything on top of that can be replaced as and when time and money became available.

One problem that I could envisage in an older boat is that when you 'rip' out old electronics they were all bigger than they are today - the resulting mess of holes/screw holes/mastic etc needs to be sorted. Expensive and time consuming.

We will be going down the same route as you are thinking. I really liked the Sadler. Sheena did not. I could see possibilities. Sheena wants to go sailing.

Horses for courses.

I dont know what we will buy eventually. Jenneau 34.2 has caught my imagination -but I'm keeping that one to myself for the moment.
Hope this helps.

Regards

Donald

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The Bav 32 is 3900KG, and the new Ben 323 in 3837KG - about the same really, though the 373 weighs in at 6600KG as opposed to the Bav36's 5500KG. Surely the BenJen/Bav brigade are all selling to the same market, whether it be their cruising or competition ranges??

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I was basing my figures on:

LOA Displacement (lbs)
Bav 32 33.7 8267
Bav 34 35.4 9992
Ben 331 33.9 11172

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