New inflatable Tender - Whats the 'best' size needed for with Kids?

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I need to buy a new tender before the start of the sailing season and need to know what is the optimal size is?

For the background - boat is kept on swinging mooring in the Oban area - Cold water, circa 0.5m waves are quite common and boat is a good few 100m from the shoreline - boat is not used for day sails, minimum usage is 2 night aboard so always have couple of holdalls, bags of food etc. Loading via alongside a pontoon is not really practicable. The set up will be propelled by a lightweight 5hp 2 stroke OB. Also boat has a babystay so distance between 'stay and anchor locker is only 1.8m

When I single handed, I had a Seago 230, which was just OK.

When my wife to be joined it was too small and wet. I upgraded to a second hand Seago 290. This was much better - drier, could cary more stuff so fewer shuttles back and forth etc, but
1) It takes an age to inflate after a 3hr drive.
2) It weighs circa 40kgs which is pretty heavy to manhandle and tie across the transom and
3) The tender is *just* wider than the transom so the sponsons often drag in the water.

The 290 is now dead so needs replaced.

Further complication is that we're soon going from being a couple to having a baby. This will mean having to carry more stuff, but at the same time, all dinghy manhandling will be done alone. So I need light weight, stable, dry and rugged enough to manhandle alone over rocky foreshore.

At face value, not an easy set of criteria!

I've narrowed selection down to;

Boatworld 250 - this is 28kg but has the floor protruding out the back of the transom precluding the use of transom wheels, but its cheap @£600, in stock and will be quicker to inflate. Should fit onto foredeck with the nose chamber deflated.
Boatworld 270 this is 29kg but has the floor protruding out the back of the transom precluding the use of transom wheels - also not in stock - hopefully back in late April...
3D tender Superlight twin air 270 - this is 16kg, this has transom that can take wheels but I fear it will be a tattered, punctured bit of landfill after the first weekend due to rocky foreshore landings.
3D tender Fast Cat 280 - should be very stable, its self draining, has a transom that can take wheels, but at 36kg may be awkward to manhandle
SeaGo Spririt 270 - known entity, will last a good while, can take transom wheels but will have same issues as current tender - heavy, awkward & take a while to inflate.

So, YBW fora - what other tenders' have I over looked? What criteria should I rate highest and what of the above options should I spend my money on? I would prefer not to buy the wrong thing then have to buy another new one after a season when my sailing budget will be somewhat diminished!

Thanks
 
A Seago 270 should be perfect. Anything smaller and you risk getting wet. It is also more stable when transferring to the boat.
Get a good electric pump to speed up inflating - I use an LVM pump which only takes a few minutes but is no longer available.
Also when the engine fails you still need to be able to row the inflatable with a full load of passangers and luggage. This is impossible in a smaller inflatable.
 
Babies seem to need an estate car of stuff to support them. I think you need to go large and I think the 3D is the option because you will be lifting on your own whilst wifey is holding the baby.
 
Wow - that is impressive! I've used an electric pump on an SUP, but that took about 20mins per board. 90second is very impressive indeed!
It’s really great. Also makes deflation much easier. The only downsides are that it’s very noisy when deflating (not so bad when inflating, but I always regret forgetting ear protectors for the deflating) and you need a 12v battery for it. I don’t like hooking it up to my car (battery is inaccessible, beneath the spare wheel in the boot…) so find myself carrying a spare leisure battery. Suspect I could get away with a motorbike battery instead, would be more convenient.
 
Is there nowhere to leave a hard dinghy?
We used have a dinghy park at our harbour. We then left our rib on the boat

Not really - boat is moored just off a glorified lay-by on a coastal road...

Although I should add, it's possible we could relocate to a new mooring spot with a pontoon for loading if our current one proves unworkable.
 
+1 on the electric pump. Could you also fit davits? They would allow you to keep an inflated flubber or, perhaps better for what you need it for, a rib, on the stern. The only downside is that the project is starting to get (even more) expensive!
 
I used to inflate my large Avon using a suitable sized plastic pipe and the car's exhaust pipe. no need for an electric Pump. My ABII is small enough to stow up front of the boat and will take all my gear, dog and SWMBO who does not like getting wet. Rated for 4 adults and 5HP engine. With an aluminium floor takes a lot of punishment and yet light enough to be reasonable for carrying.
 
What size is the mother ship? As Stemar says, davits could help - and ideal for a boat used in Scotland. We have a 270 dinghy on davits - which is ideal as never have to remove outboard, and now fitted wheels as well.
Can you leave a dinghy at Oban SC?
 
Boat is 34ft - I think Davits would be a great idea.

Right that's it decided then. The heavier / more rugged SeaGo, a nice pair of Davits and some GRP work to reinforce the transom it is.

Thanks all!
 
Can you leave a dinghy at Oban SC?


Theoretically I could join and do so, but you can't park at the club - it's pay and display parking and not compatible with multiple days away - think the longest time slot you can buy in one go is <24hrs.
 
Not really - boat is moored just off a glorified lay-by on a coastal road...

Although I should add, it's possible we could relocate to a new mooring spot with a pontoon for loading if our current one proves unworkable.
To my mind relocate to the new mooring with pontoon for loading. Buy a lighter dinghy and forget the davits.
 
I used to inflate my large Avon using a suitable sized plastic pipe and the car's exhaust pipe. no need for an electric Pump. My ABII is small enough to stow up front of the boat and will take all my gear, dog and SWMBO who does not like getting wet. Rated for 4 adults and 5HP engine. With an aluminium floor takes a lot of punishment and yet light enough to be reasonable for carrying.
Hello, can I ask what an ABII boat is? I’m looking for a similar tender and can’t find anything online about it.
Thanks
 
Could you fit snap davits so the boat is stored on edge across the stern - see them on yachts as well as MOBO's Snap Davits | Polymarine Paints, Adhesives, Parts & Accessories

that’s broadly what I have done the last few season - only with lines and carabiners instead of stainless clips bolted to the transom.

if I were to go to the effort to disassemble the cabinetry in the aft cabin, I’d may as well go the whole hog and do properDavits I recon
 
The other point to consider I suspect unless you own a large vehicle or have a roof box is the space for the new dinghy,outboard,oars life jackets,fuel can, plus supplies,clothes etc when added to all the extra baby care kit you will be packing unless you plan to leave duplicates on board. I guess you will have a buggy,car seat, plus all the other baby kit to transport. Assuming your wheels will carry something reasonable go on the size of the tubes so it’s less prone to waves/wash . I suspect budget is key but bigger tubes might help keep drier. You only need one rib to drive by as you pottering out with your 2 stroke to realise the importance and that based on experiences using a 320 inflatable with a larger o/b . Davits can prove expensive but a Batsystem is an interesting idea if you wish to invest in these.
 
Cardingmill Bay, OSC and the pontoon could be the answer if you can find a mooring but there is still the car parking problem. Oban seems determined to monetise every available piece of kerb. A Dunstaffnage mooring offers car/dinghy/outboard parking and pontoon loading but at a price.
 

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