yoda
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Another one for you
New guy asking your opinion
- Thread starter Ben-N
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FullCircle
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1 more.
bitbaltic
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Yet another
LadyInBed
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Done
Survey doesn't allow for several different types of life jacket carried.
Or for 2nd hand equipment.
Survey doesn't allow for several different types of life jacket carried.
Or for 2nd hand equipment.
prv
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Indeed - asks if the boat has lifejackets, then subsequent questions talk about "the lifejacket". Copy and paste from the liferaft questions?
We have four conventional Crewsavers (including one that wasn't serviced for years cos my dad nicked it for his aeroplane and he's ignorant of things like that), one Kru Sport Pro (fancy one for me), one cheap and nasty XM manual (making up the numbers in the unlikely event that we ever have six on board) and one Crewsaver kids' jacket of unknown age, bought second-hand (for the rare occasions when my mate brings his 5yo nephew along).
However, all the fields are free-form text boxes, so I was generally able to fill in something that mostly covered it.
Pete
Kelpie
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Done, and a good reminder to me to service my life jackets!
Ripster
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And another. Good luck with your study.
onesea
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Same here, made me think L/Js with me are between 1 and 20 years old...
Please do not try to regulate us more!
Angele
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Done.
tigr
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Done, but as said above I have lots of different types. One good thing is that it makes it handy to see who has what.
Just been on a Sea Survival course - very good, if you can't go on a course have a go at trying your jacket in the water, it's good to get used to it and makes sure it works!
Don't fancy being in the middle of the sea in one for a long time though, oh and a spray hood is a great option.
Just been on a Sea Survival course - very good, if you can't go on a course have a go at trying your jacket in the water, it's good to get used to it and makes sure it works!
Don't fancy being in the middle of the sea in one for a long time though, oh and a spray hood is a great option.
Onlythelonely
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Done. !
Barnacle Bill
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Done.
I'm the guy who said it would be dangerously counter-productive to mandate lifejacket servicing by 'professionals'.
This is because such a step would discourage skippers and users from checking their own on a regular basis. I think anyone who is given a lifejacket to use on a sailing boat should be encouraged to unscrew the bottle and check that the seal hasn't been pierced, and that there are no other obvious signs of damage. Mandatory servicing would encourage the opposite - "don't open that, it's been serviced in compliance with regulations".
I'm the guy who said it would be dangerously counter-productive to mandate lifejacket servicing by 'professionals'.
This is because such a step would discourage skippers and users from checking their own on a regular basis. I think anyone who is given a lifejacket to use on a sailing boat should be encouraged to unscrew the bottle and check that the seal hasn't been pierced, and that there are no other obvious signs of damage. Mandatory servicing would encourage the opposite - "don't open that, it's been serviced in compliance with regulations".
Danbury
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Don't forget that Ben is probably a youngster (lucky git !) so he's been brought up in the Labour years of large state control and regulation of everything... it's not his fault he's been hoodwinked into thinking it'll be safer if you pay someone with a certificate to do it for you.
FishyInverness
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I agree to a point, but there is a world of difference between "checking and maintaining" and "servicing" - To be honest, the amount of people who have said to me that they "service" their own lifejackets, and then seeing the state of some of them, scares me.
I would vote for better education over legislation any time, but, as I said in my submission of the survey, I encourage legislation not for the actual requirement to have your jacket serviced, but to ensure that someone setting themselves up as a servicing station, is checked and regulated...as there is nothing in place at the moment, I could set up "Fishy's Servicing Station" tomorrow and there's nothing to stop me from just getting on with it, regardless of my level of competency :disgust:
Angele
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+1. I said much the same.
JumbleDuck
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I said something similar. Mandatory servicing of lifejackets just wouldn't work, because there is no conceivable way of tracking all the lifejackets in the country. Anything which puts up the cost of servicing, like banning d-i-y (as if you could) would only result in fewer services carried out. Compulsory standards for professionals aren;t a bad idea, though.
Finally, none of this applies to coded boats. on which i would expect to find only lifejackets regularly serviced by qualified people.
PlankWalker
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Bump again
Arcady
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Another one done.
Arcady
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It seems to me there is absolutely no point in making the servicing of lifejackets mandatory if the wearing of life jackets is not also mandatory. If people can't be forced to wear them then why should they be forced to have them serviced? (In case you're wondering and at the risk of getting off-thread, I am definitely not in favour of mandatory requirement to wear life jackets - it removes the judgement call from the skipper!).
chewi
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Fair enough to decide not to wear one if thats ones view, but innocently donning one that won't work is another matter altogether.
I dont think LJ's have to be logged or registered for compulsory servicing to have some teeth, it would only take stiff legal consequences of failures or lack of service evidence to make people substantially comply with servicing. It might , however, cause me to bin some spare LJs rather than pay to service them.