New build Princess F55 flybridge

[Elessar]

I would guess Mapism that Princess have fitted a VSR that joins the two 230v buses on the boat when the relay senses 230v from genset, but doesn't join the two buses when only one of the shore leads is plugged in. I seem to remember that's how my Squadron 58 classic was wired.

Mine has a simple manual rotary switch to change from generator to 2x16A shore. It’s next to the generator on switch so is no great hassle and it does exactly as you describe.

 

[Hurricane]

I would guess Mapism that Princess have fitted a VSR that joins the two 230v buses on the boat when the relay senses 230v from genset, but doesn't join the two buses when only one of the shore leads is plugged in. I seem to remember that's how my Squadron 58 classic was wired.

Simpler than that.
A rotary switch with a center off position.

 

[Elessar]

Simpler than that.
A rotary switch with a center off position.

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Yep that’s what I have on my Sealine. KISS.

 

[henryf]

The Princess P50 Mk3 is the same. Switch from shore power to the generator and you hear some solenoids energise behind the fuse board.

The only time I had a problem was when an RCD breaker on the shore power pedestal had a bad connector. It hadn't totally failed but there was a problem. I spent ages changing shore power lead ends and checking everything convinced the fault was on the boat. In the end we were going to Cowes, plugged in there and everything was fine. Haslar had someone down that day to resolve but at the time I assumed (wrongly) that it was a boat issue.

 

[henryf]

Earlier on the thread someone asked me about the cut out in the hull nose section where the bow thruster goes. Why is it built like that?

The answer is that to drill the hole for the thruster tunnel into the curved hull is quite tricky. It’s better to produce the hull with a step as per the photo and then fabricate a separate section that houses the bow thruster tunnel which fits into the hull recess.

 

[rafiki_]

Earlier on the thread someone asked me about the cut out in the hull nose section where the bow thruster goes. Why is it built like that?

The answer is that to drill the hole for the thruster tunnel into the curved hull is quite tricky. It’s better to produce the hull with a step as per the photo and then fabricate a separate section that houses the bow thruster tunnel which fits into the hull recess.

Where are your pics from Das Boot?

 

[henryf]

We’ve been in Düsseldorf for a few days visiting the boat show there, Boot Düsseldorf. Being the linguistic genius that I am I can tell you it means Düsseldorf Boat show in English - or something bloody close to it.

If you haven’t been then treat yourself next year. Budget a couple of days, it’s like 8 London boat shows wrapped into 1. They have everything imaginable. Princess had a very impressive stand and kindly provided tickets. We stayed in the Japanese quarter of town so lots of sushi at night.

2 aims this year. Decide what we’re doing about a tender and keep an eye on what’s out there, particularly what’s out there which we don’t get to see at the UK shows.

In terms of number 1 I think we narrowed it down to 3 options with photos attached. We could also go for the standard Highfield type rib but they do look a bit normal. No desire at all to buy a Williams. Hideously expensive, very heavy, a nightmare if you want to drag it up the beach or leave it in a dinghy park.

what do you guys think ?

 

[Bajansailor]

You definitely need to get that Porsche tender - it should compliment your land business very nicely?
That unicorn tender would be a very close second

While still in unorthodox mode, if you have room for a second tender (I think that as soon as you have more than 2 people on board it is useful to have two tenders), then get yourself a nice pulling boat.
By this I mean something that rows well - it is much nicer to row a proper rowing skiff rather than a machine in the gymn.

 

[Croftie]

For me its 1 or 2
No1 - Appears to be a pedalo so very eco friendly
No 2 - Not too sure about this, obviously the wheels will create more lift than spray rails but the Bimini is a bit small
No3 - Too traditional

 

[henryf]

I’m with you guys but Mrs HenryF seems remarkably reticent about going 1 or 2. Option 3 surprisingly or should that be reassuringly expensive making me think that unicorns may be somewhat 2022….

 

[rafiki_]

We’ve been in Düsseldorf for a few days visiting the boat show there, Boot Düsseldorf. Being the linguistic genius that I am I can tell you it means Düsseldorf Boat show in English - or something bloody close to it.

If you haven’t been then treat yourself next year. Budget a couple of days, it’s like 8 London boat shows wrapped into 1. They have everything imaginable. Princess had a very impressive stand and kindly provided tickets. We stayed in the Japanese quarter of town so lots of sushi at night.

2 aims this year. Decide what we’re doing about a tender and keep an eye on what’s out there, particularly what’s out there which we don’t get to see at the UK shows.

In terms of number 1 I think we narrowed it down to 3 options with photos attached. We could also go for the standard Highfield type rib but they do look a bit normal. No desire at all to buy a Williams. Hideously expensive, very heavy, a nightmare if you want to drag it up the beach or leave it in a dinghy park.

what do you guys think ?

Never come across AST tenders before Henry. Looks tidy enough. How well will the composite hull resist damage when beaching, compared to your previous RibEye?

 

[MrB]

2 all day, 3 reminds me of a bed pan. ???

 

[Hurricane]

Whatever you get, make sure it has a big engine!

 

[henryf]

Re: the AST tender.

Damage from beaching - they offer a double / triple carbon layer as an option for about £350. In addition there is keel protection but a valid point. All the tenders I’ve had in living memory have been aluminium hulls so possibly I’m spoiled. It is marketed specifically as a beaching tender and it will have wheels on the transom.

Engine wise the aim is actually to go as small as possible. There’s a lovely 9.9hp engine which selects forward & reverse via a simple twist clock or anti-clockwise. The alternative is a 15hp engine.

The former offers around 17 knots with a couple of people the latter mid 20 knots.

Our use of tenders is really boring and practical. Essentially getting from the boat ashore or else pottering up an estuary to find a restaurant or pub. We don’t do any blasting around and never tow anything.

 

[Elessar]

Whatever you get, make sure it has a big engine!

Like the nutter at the Southampton boat show they all remembered?

 

[Ian h]

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[Commercial Dave]

Saw a couple of Princesses getting a shake down in Cawsand bay today. Can't figure out how to attach a photo though

 

[henryf]

Saw a couple of Princesses getting a shake down in Cawsand bay today. Can't figure out how to attach a photo though

I think the factory have now handed her over to Argo / Princess Sales so it will be having a once over at Turnchapel before making it's way to Swanwick on the Hamble.

I think they do some basic training to help prepare the boat for it's move from Plymouth to the more gentle and upmarket surroundings of the upper Hamble

 

[jfm]

Nice to hear - progress seems very fast . Any pictures of the sea trials that must be happening?

 

[Commercial Dave]

Is one of those yours?