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As regards interlocks between running engines and hi lo platforms, it depends on what manufacturer chooses. On both my Sq78s they were linked, so by default the hi lo would not operate with engines on, and engines would not start with hi lo down, BUT Fairline provided an override switch in the engine room, in a box with a screwed lid, allowing the interlock to be overridden. I overrode it from day 1 and screwed the lid back on the box. I absolutely want to be able to operate the hi lo with engines running, precisely for a MOB situation. If Fairline had not provided this, I would have wired it myself, and ditto on my next boat.

Also, Fairline provided an alarm/flashing light at helm that operated whenever engines were running with hi lo not fully up - very sensible.

Recovery of MOB is another reason you want engine controls in aft cockpit - makes things much safer and easier. Driver can see casualty without having to rely on shouted instructions.

As regards fin stabilisers, I would want them on when recovering MOB in rough weather. Sure, keep the MOB away from the fins, but the improved MOB recovery that you get from having a stable boat far outweighs the risk to a MOB of moving fins, imho. All assumes very competent helmsman, etc.

I have rescued on one occasion in bad weather. Warms seas off Corsica. My boat was driven from aft cockpit with fins running so manoeuvring it while seeing the casualties close up was fine. The seas were big and my boat wasn't rolling (fins) but the thing that sticks in my mind was how difficult it was to deal with heave. The speed at which the rescue boat rises upwards and slams down when stationary in a big sea can be shocking. A swim platform can thwack the people you're rescuing on the way up and down, and the chine can thwack them on the way down. It is what it is and you have to deal with it, but I'd still rather have a working hi lo and fins than not.

We’d left from Swansea to Padstow and we’d left enough time to go to Lundy. For one reason and another we abandoned Lundy and carried on (total 86mn) and Padstow can only have a 2hr timescale IIRC. We we on a Fairline SQ43 and further south from Lundy had some radio Comms from a 30ft saily boat that was in trouble. Nothing from the coastguard and we responded accordingly. They had lost propulsion, and they weren’t using sails and they weren’t far from the rocks. his FO was very ill with seasickness and they were effectively dead in the water. We had no option but to assist - heavy seas, F4 and 3m at a guess and we found them and circled many times to try and get some lines to them. We managed it and brought them 27miles to Padstow. Oddly the minute we got lines on and we were towing them we lost ALL radio contact with them so it was just verbal/waving t 7/8 knots. It could have been a problem as we wanted 22 to get into Padstow. Hey ho. We got into the river towards Padstow and brought the yacht alongside who then told us they has 90ft of water below them, (they never saw the irony) that this was rubbish, we had 10ish and I called the HM at Padstow (who is a great guy btw) to explain the situation and that we needed to come in. He told me he had a 10m gate and we were about 27ftwide with the yacht alongside. We approached slowly and then had all sorts of idiots darting in front of us and along side us etc while it was obvious that we were struggling as whatever power we used we just wiggles with the 10/12ton yacht alongside - even with our two twin CATS 3208’s (800hp) we could only power one side of us and kept turning us. We came around and suddenly saw an opportunity to get though the gate and the captain motioned to me that we were going in- whatever happened - I was on the aft with a few large ball buoys and got us in whilst touching the wall at one point and then we had to raft up alongside a £500k cat. There was only about 1000 people watching and Mark(captain of the Fairline 43 Sq got us in perfectly)
The captain and FO of our stricken vessel miraculously recovered and disappeared only to appear a few hours later with posh bags of cheese and wine from Padstow’s finest shops. If I’d broken down and struggled into a harbour all I would want to do is fix my problems, not go shopping. Next morning I witnessed the captain of the stricken yacht coming back to his yacht with diesel cans….he’d not broken down at all - just run out of diesel and he didn’t want to use his sails. Later that day he came to our skipper and asked if he preferred red/white/rose - and was offered a bottle of £6wine. There were three others on board (I was one) and we did get given a 6pack of fosters for our trouble.

I am glad we helped them, they were seriously in the shit and they’d failed to raise RNLI etc from where they were as their radio gear was useless. Even when we were towing them in we struggled with Comms. We were not skilled in rescue but everyday is a school day and I still have the Navionics to show how many times we went around them to try and get lines safely to us.

A day later their FO told me that they broke down/needed assistance wherever they went. They had been to see their son/daughter in Aberystwyth uni and taken the boat and needed Bala/Aber lifeboats out again for lack of diesel. She seemed proud and I asked her if she had a sticker book from the RNLI and was she hoping for a full house. She walked away then and wouldn’t speak to me for the next few days.

I KNOW we can all need assistance, we have brought in a fair few boats from Oxwich, put ourselves at risk in Port Eynon for a little boat which we won’t do again - we took ourselves into very shallow water which was stupid - we should have insisted that we take then back to Swansea with their crew on board with us - why risk your perfectly functioning 50ft to take a 19ft closer to the shore - but this guys on board with a young son and were very grateful - the 10yo was crapping himself - their little boat was almost full of water

If someone had dragged us 27miles into Padstow, and off the rocks, when they had no further Comms that 5 miles I’d. have been into the nearest restaurant and bought a £200+ voucher for our trouble , to bugger off and shop was a piss-take. An offer the next day of a choice of a bottle was just taking the mick. One of our crew wanted to claim salvage!

Mark, our skipper on the SQ43 was shouting at me to make good a line when we were in the thick of it - I asked him what knot he wanted - he replied one that wouldn’t FU**ing come apart…it was very heavy water and new to us all really.. I tied two long lines together and it wasn’t a knot that anyone would recognise but it didn’t come apart and he cut the line a year later and presented it to me in case which is on my Fairline 50 now and I’ll always remember it.
 
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We’d left from Swansea to Padstow and we’d left enough time to go to Lundy. For one reason and another we abandoned Lundy and carried on (total 86mn) and Padstow can only have a 2hr timescale IIRC. We we on a Fairline SQ43 and further south from Lundy had some radio Comms from a 30ft saily boat that was in trouble. Nothing from the coastguard and we responded accordingly. They had lost propulsion, and they weren’t using sails and they weren’t far from the rocks. his FO was very ill with seasickness and they were effectively dead in the water. We had no option but to assist - heavy seas, F4 and 3m at a guess and we found them and circled many times to try and get some lines to them. We managed it and brought them 27miles to Padstow. Oddly the minute we got lines on and we were towing them we lost ALL radio contact with them so it was just verbal/waving t 7/8 knots. It could have been a problem as we wanted 22 to get into Padstow. Hey ho. We got into the river towards Padstow and brought the yacht alongside who then told us they has 90ft of water below them, (they never saw the irony) that this was rubbish, we had 10ish and I called the HM at Padstow to explain the situation and that we needed to come in. He told me he had a 10m gate and we were about 27ftwide with the yacht alongside. We approached slowly and then had all sorts of idiots darting in front of us and along side us etc, we struggled as whatever power we used we just wiggles with the 10/12ton yacht alongside - even with our two twin CATS 3208’s we could only power one side of us. We came around and suddenly saw an opportunity to get though the gate and the captain motioned to me that we were going in- whatever happened - I was on the aft with a few large buoys and got us in and the we had to raft up alongside a £500k cat. There was only about 1000 people watching and Mark(captain of the Fairline 43 Sq got us in perfectly)
The captain and FO of our stricken vessel miraculously recovered and disappeared only to appear a few hours later with posh bags of cheese and wine from Padstow’s finest shops. If I’d broken down and struggled into harbours before now and all I would want to do is fix my problems, not go shopping. Next morning I witnessed the CO coming back to his yacht with diesel cans….he’d not broken down at all - just run out of diesel and he didn’t want to use his sails. Even later that day he came to our skipper and asked if he preferred red/white/rose - and was offered a bottle of £6wine. There were three others on board (I was one) and we did get given.a 6pack of fosters for our trouble.

I am glad we helped them, they were seriously in the shit and they’d failed to raise RNLI etc from where they wer as their radio gear was useless. Even when we were towing them in we struggled with Comms. We were not skilled in rescue but everyday is a school day and I still have the Navionics to show how many times we went around them to try and get lines safely.

A day later the FO told me that they broke down/needed assistance whereever they went. They had been to see their son/daughter in Aberystwyth uni and taken the boat and needed Bala/Aber lifeboats out again for lack of diesel. She seemed proud and I asked her if she had a sticker book from the RNLI and was she hoping for a full house. She walked away then and wouldn’t speak to me for the next few days.

I KNOW we can all need assistance, we have brought in a fair few boats from Oxwich, put ourselves at risk in Port Eynon for a little boat which we won’t do again - we took ourselves into very shallow water which was stupid - we would insist that we take then back to Swansea - why risk your perfectly functioning 50ft to take.an 19ft closer to the shore - but this guys on board with a young so were very grateful - the 10yo was crapping himself - their little boat was almost full of water

If someone had dragged us 27miles into Padstow, and off the rocks, when they had no further Comms that 5 miles I’d. have been into the nearest restaurant and bought a £200+ voucher for our trouble , to bugger off and shop was a piss-take. An offer the next day of a choice of a bottle was just taking the mick. One of our crew wanted to claim salvage!

Mark, our skipper on the SQ43 was shouting at me to make good a line, I asked him what knot he wanted - he replied one that wouldn’t FU**ing come apart…it was very heavy water and new to us all really.. I tied two long lines together and it wasn’t a knot that anyone would recognise but it didn’t come apart and he cut the line a year later and presented it to me in case which is on my Fairline 50 now and I’ll always remember it.


We had a little Searay 28 and the MMSI went off a few miles away - Three Cliffs/Rhosilli so we went from Swansea bay to see what we could do. We saw the swimmers in trouble and the large RNLI was chasing us there and the smaller RNLI has come from the other direction, we were virtually alongside some of the swimmers in danger and we were about to bring them aboard, we we in neutral, but the water there is very unpredictable and with only one person at the helm, me, I felt it was better to keep the engine running while crew dragged them aboard and the we were able to get away ASAP.

I think it is truly how the situation suits itself - another issue was in Swansea Barrage lock. That is obviously an all engines off scenario - a lot of bigger boats in there - and trying to tell others to do the same took longer than recovering the MOB. In the lock a saily boat came in at about 10/12knots - far too fast and then couldn’t stop and a lady on board grabbed the ropes on the side of the pontoon and ripped her hands apart and we thought she was going to go overboard - they ended up hitting the boat in front of them but nothing serious - they ended up telling us that they always came in like that and went into reverse at the last moment to stop/slowdown but they’d lost reverse that day - but WHY would you ever put yourself in that situation? The slower you are the less damage you can cause. Obviously you need some movement so you can manoeuvre but….. 💁‍♂️. Credit card captains who come out 3times a year.

Apologies @henryf for high jacking your thread.
 
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Looking good in Cowes today Henry, think the proportions and styling of Hull windows and superstructure are spot on, so much better than older models
Only thing I would change is bigger fenders but that could be more to do with my mooring ability!!! Neil
 

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Thanks for the spot in Cowes. We had a run up to the Folly reach the night before and popped into Cowes Yacht Haven. I’ve got my first charter on Wednesday and wanted to see what things are looking like this season.

The problem with big fenders is they take up lots of space when not in use.

Haven’t seen the article yet. Doing a regular feature so will slowly find my feet in terms of content. At the moment trying to introduce and set the scene as it were.
 

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Thanks for the spot in Cowes. We had a run up to the Folly reach the night before and popped into Cowes Yacht Haven. I’ve got my first charter on Wednesday and wanted to see what things are looking like this season.

The problem with big fenders is they take up lots of space when not in use.

Haven’t seen the article yet. Doing a regular feature so will slowly find my feet in terms of content. At the moment trying to introduce and set the scene as it were.
Be warned. It’s got a picture of you. 🫣
 

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Did our first charter on the new boat today. A slightly unusual one as the guests were only in town for the day as part of a cruise.

Quite a blowy day which meant I was able to finally use the gyro stabilisers in anger and they are absolutely phenomenal.

You obviously have to pick your battles, it won’t take out high speed on the plane crashing but at lower speeds particularly with a beam sea it made such a difference. It also worked well with a following sea and dealt with that slow rolling side to side movement you sometimes get.

I can finally see what all the fuss is about. The guests today definitely had a much smoother ride. To be fair the F55’s hull design is also radically different to the old P50 mk3 and makes for a more grown up ride.
 

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I should say that whilst circa 20 knot winds aren’t gale force the fact is was from the South East made for a messy entry & exit from Portsmouth harbour in particular.
 

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I know I'm replying to an old comment, but have you checked inflatable fenders like Polyform or EasyStore?
Some useful info here:
Fendering Take Three
Thanks for that.

We’ve looked at inflatable fenders and whilst they have a certain appeal there are also some downsides. Cost, being blown around in the wind and unknown life expectancy. The article you linked to was really useful.

I’ll post on here if we make any decisions.
 
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