cloud7
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Opinions needed , if you purchased a new yacht ( 45 ft ) and you had major issues , your cannot service the engine , too big for engine housing , and several other issues .
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RichardS
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I'm not sure what you are looking for .... but the engine in any boat has to be serviceable in situ otherwise there has probably been a breach of consumer legislation unless the boat was sold with a warning that the engine cannot be serviced unless it is removed from the boat.
It the engine is just difficult or awkward to service or needs some special tools then I'm afraid that you are very unlikely to have any come back in law. You could always appeal to the good nature of the vendor and see if they will swap the engine for a smaller one.
Richard
It the engine is just difficult or awkward to service or needs some special tools then I'm afraid that you are very unlikely to have any come back in law. You could always appeal to the good nature of the vendor and see if they will swap the engine for a smaller one.
Richard
cloud7
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Thanks Richard
The engine : access to impeller impossible , access to main belt impossible , I think engine bay was for a Volvo , fitted a Yanmar
The engine : access to impeller impossible , access to main belt impossible , I think engine bay was for a Volvo , fitted a Yanmar
PetiteFleur
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Slightly off topic but one reason I did not fit a Yanmar was difficulty of access to the impellor - for me the Beta was ideal as impellor very accessible on my boat.
maby
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Is this a new new boat, or a new-to-you second hand boat that has been modified by a previous owner? If one of big manufacturers has sold you a boat with that defect, then I would think that you have a case under consumer law. If it's a second hand boat fitted with an inappropriate engine, then I think it would be difficult to make a case unless the seller took steps to hide the fact.
cloud7
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Thanks this boat is 4 weeks old I cannot get cover off belt , or access to impeller ,
dunedin
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Assume you had looked at engine access, amongst many other things, as part of choosing the type of boat to buy.
Did you request a different engine from the boat you looked at, or was the spec changed by the manufacturer post viewing?
Euphonyx
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Caveat Emptor??
jordanbasset
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What is the boat, can you post pictures of the engine bay?
For a new boat of that length I am sure you paid a lot of money, I would go back to the manufacturer/supplier and point out the issues and ask them how you are supposed to service it
For a new boat of that length I am sure you paid a lot of money, I would go back to the manufacturer/supplier and point out the issues and ask them how you are supposed to service it
Fr J Hackett
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People often say that they can't do somethings, it doesn't mean that those things can't be done. Fitting a bottom radiator hose to an old mini springs to mind.
john_morris_uk
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My thoughts entirely.
Ferrari are infamous for designing and building at least one model where you had to drop the engine (and gearbox and suspension out?) to service it.
There have been popular Jaguar models where body work panels have to be removed to get at regular service parts.
scottie
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Inadequate access to service engines is a long standing problem that should not still exist.
Due to the way boats are assembled with with the deck being fitted after interior fit out not only are engines but other components unreachable without major surgery
What redress you have is for others to decide but it would make an interesting case I am sure.
Due to the way boats are assembled with with the deck being fitted after interior fit out not only are engines but other components unreachable without major surgery
What redress you have is for others to decide but it would make an interesting case I am sure.
Just_sayin'
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So what’s the excuse for the inaccessibility of items from boats not assembled this way, or are you one of those dreamers who thinks that the old ways are the best?
Many on here would appear to disagree judging by their posts..
Skylark
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Not enough info from OP.
When I bought new, albeit from a mass producer, I was given a very extensive hand-over which covered routine access, service and maintenance of all systems.
What advice for engine service was given to the OP
If access is as described by the OP, I'd be similarly worried about the construction/installation of its other systems.
Sail or power? Pictures?
When I bought new, albeit from a mass producer, I was given a very extensive hand-over which covered routine access, service and maintenance of all systems.
What advice for engine service was given to the OP
If access is as described by the OP, I'd be similarly worried about the construction/installation of its other systems.
Sail or power? Pictures?
langstonelayabout
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Is it too early or late to return to the manufacturer and ask for them to service the engine and change these parts at the same time?
This way you can see that it either can be done, the techniques used or you will have evidence against the design that has been used, validated by the manufacturer.
This way you can see that it either can be done, the techniques used or you will have evidence against the design that has been used, validated by the manufacturer.
SlowlyButSurely
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What are the "other issues"?
dom
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You'll need to supply a lot more information to include: make and model, whether the vessel is new or not, specific access concerns (i.e. to what and for what purpose), country of purchase, purchase contract, dealer responses, what exactly you mean by "too big for engine housing", and details of those other issues.
Otherwise this is just guesswork.
jwilson
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Try changing the speedo cable on a 1960s Mini. You remove engine and gearbox!
On topic, boat engines parts often have poor access, but rarely NO access. On the whole my Yanmar is fairly good for access, but changing the starter motor is a bitch. And it's on it's third starter motor.
[70521]
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Did the OP not crawl all over a completed model of the vessel before signing the contract?
I'll never have the money to buy a new boat but whenever I've bought a boat I've sat at the engine and gone through the systems that I've have to work on and seen how easy or difficult it is to change things. When it has been difficult, the designer who thought having the primary fuel filter behind the engine under my bunk needs their head examined, I've moved the system to a place were I could work on it easily.
rotrax
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I have not read all the posts here but our current boat is fitted with a Yanmar engine.
The boatbuilders discarded the front engine guard-the one that stops rotating pulleys and belts injuring wandering hands.
The reason they did this is clear to me.
If they had not, it would not be possible to remove it for belt and alternator service with the engine installed.
If the OP's boat's Yanmar has this cover guard fitted and it cannot be removed in situ, that IS an installation fault.
Not being able to carry out a belt change could result in the loss of the vessel.
The boatbuilders discarded the front engine guard-the one that stops rotating pulleys and belts injuring wandering hands.
The reason they did this is clear to me.
If they had not, it would not be possible to remove it for belt and alternator service with the engine installed.
If the OP's boat's Yanmar has this cover guard fitted and it cannot be removed in situ, that IS an installation fault.
Not being able to carry out a belt change could result in the loss of the vessel.
