New boat, conventional diesel or diesel hybrid?

Slight diversion. One of the reasons for going hybrid suggested by @doris was to avoid carrying gas. If that's the goal, a diesel cooker would seen to be a possibility. I gather these are common on motor boats. I recall seeing a very snazzy-looking one with what looked like a ceramic hob Are they any good? Anyone put one on a sailing boat?

Perhaps something like this? Wallas XC Duo - Combined Diesel Hob And Heater

Seems to be in a camper van rather than a boat. Needs fiddles and gimbals. Or perhaps a big lump of blu-tak.
 
I'd never seen those before, thanks for the link they look really neat. As you say though, eye wateringly expensive!
 
Tranona said:
Have been available for boats for many years and popular in Scandinavia where they are made. However they are very expensive, roughly 3 times the price of a good gas cooker.

kuranda.co.uk/product-category/wallas/wallas-diesel-hobs-and-ovens/
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I sailed on a boat with one once. As well as being very expensive here are some other features...

They are slow to heat up. From cold to boiling kettle is 15 minutes.

They are slow to react. You can't instantly turn the heat up or down.

They use significant electrical power, like an Eberspacher. High current at startup & shutdown & some when running. Like an Eberspacher if your volts are a bit low they won't go.

The one I used had a single heat control for both rings on the hob, one running hotter than the other. It's a bit strange cooking like that. I don't know if they're all like that, but I expect so.

Like Eberspacher heaters they need regular maintenance & can be temperamental. They have a lot of electronics & wiring in them.
 
AngusMcDoon said:
They are slow to heat up. From cold to boiling kettle is 15 minutes.

They are slow to react. You can't instantly turn the heat up or down.

They use significant electrical power, like an Eberspacher. High current at startup & shutdown & some when running. Like an Eberspacher if your volts are a bit low they won't go.

The one I used had a single heat control for both rings on the hob, one running hotter than the other. It's a bit strange cooking like that. I don't know if they're all like that, but I expect so.
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Sounds just like home! We have a kerosene-fuelled Rayburn which takes 45 minutes to warm up and which also has a "hot end / warm end" hotplate. I'm quite used to it now, but I think I'd want something more responsive on the boat.
 
JumbleDuck said:
Sounds just like home! We have a kerosene-fuelled Rayburn which takes 45 minutes to warm up and which also has a "hot end / warm end" hotplate. I'm quite used to it now, but I think I'd want something more responsive on the boat.
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Then you will like a Taylor cooker on the boat - an 030L costs about the same as a Wallas and is the only sensible alternative to gas. Probably my biggest regret selling Tranona was losing the Taylors.
 
Tranona said:
Then you will like a Taylor cooker on the boat - an 030L costs about the same as a Wallas and is the only sensible alternative to gas. Probably my biggest regret selling Tranona was losing the Taylors.
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I thought about one of those in place of the gas system which came with the boat. It's tempting, but I really don't have room for the tank. To my annoyance I hat sold an Optimus pressure paraffin stove (two burners plus oven, quick lighters, integrated tank) just a few months before I bought the boat.
 
If you have space for a gas cylinder you have space for a tank. does not have to be close to the cooker. Mine was in a cockpit locker. Reason i went for the Taylors was because there was nowhere to put a gas tight draining locker for the cylinder. Plus the fact that it cost £100 secondhand and a new tank £50 (1986!). Had it overhauled by tthe factory around 2005 for about £350. Happy days.
 
Tranona said:
Then you will like a Taylor cooker on the boat - an 030L costs about the same as a Wallas and is the only sensible alternative to gas. Probably my biggest regret selling Tranona was losing the Taylors.
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£250 on e-bay. If I didn't have to think about shipping to Valencia I would snap it up!

link
 
Tranona said:
If you have space for a gas cylinder you have space for a tank. does not have to be close to the cooker. Mine was in a cockpit locker. Reason i went for the Taylors was because there was nowhere to put a gas tight draining locker for the cylinder. Plus the fact that it cost £100 secondhand and a new tank £50 (1986!). Had it overhauled by tthe factory around 2005 for about £350. Happy days.
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How often do they need pumped up? I thought you needed frequent access for that ... my Tilley lamp needed a pump every half hour or so on average.
 
JumbleDuck said:
How often do they need pumped up? I thought you needed frequent access for that ... my Tilley lamp needed a pump every half hour or so on average.
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Depends of course on how much you use it, but normally every 2 or 3 meals from memory, so every other day.
 
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