new Azimut 58

My sort of boat, poweryacht. I think the accomodation layout is close to perfect, especially the ability to change the guest double beds to 2 singles in each cabin which makes so much sense that I wonder why every builder does'nt do it. I also like the fact that the large master cabin windows open although the owner better remember to close it before going to sea! The saloon is superb and I especially like the new timber finishes which they first showed on the 47 which look both cool and classy unlike the new Ferretti finish which IMHO looks too minimalist. The flybridge layout is excellent too and the sunloungers aft is another excellent idea. The hull looks great in that sea green colour, much better than white. My only criticisms would be the lack of internal stairs to the flybridge and the upper helm seat which is very poor (typical Italian)
Altogether a fab boat which will sell like hot cakes
 
finally Mike I have found a boat you like /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
agree on all your comments, I confirm it is selling well and at the finish of Genoa Show Az declared they sold 30 + with delivery orders already in Jan 2009
 
Thanks for info Poweryacht. I agree the other comments. This looks like the best 58 footer on the market perhaps, and finally a boat in that size range that may be better than the fairline Sq58. Houghn and I are neighbours, so there might be 2 side-by-side soon.

Everything looks pretty much perfect to me. Only question marks for me are (i) what is the crew cabin like; it needs to be good - the Sq58 is a 5 cabin boat and the Azi needs a decent crew cabin to make it a 4 cabin boat and keep in the running (ii) lousy helm chairs on fly, as Deleted User says, but maybe can change this (iii) is the interior solid and not wobbly cheap "flexible" carpentry like in the Azi 68S? (iv) they have no fitted internal stairs which makes more space on both fly and saloon but is very inconvenient for crew serving food

I like the wild hull colours too :-)
 
She looks gorgeous, the UK dealer is Opal Marine so I think I may have to wangle driving down to Chichester Marina to have a look at one if they have one there yet.

That looks so much better than most of the others of that size out there that are starting to look a bit long in the tooth. Those hull windows must be great when below in the cabin
 
Agreed, had a good shufty and can't fault it cept maybe one or two minor details, really liked the central helm position and for once they have gone the seperate helm adjusty everywhich way seat rather than the normal bench thingy. The lazerette which I assume will be the crew cabin didnt look a big space but pends whether thats a deal breaker, wouldn't matter too much to me just dont order it in that mint green they showed at Genoa ..... yeeesh! /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif.
 
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I also like the fact that the large master cabin windows open

[/ QUOTE ]I'd also bet that she will be in great demand, but I beg to strongly disagree on that point.
Big holes in the hull for huge cabin windows are one of the better examples of how pleasure boating market is being taken over by the "form (and fashion) over function" approach.
There is so much sense in such windows on ships, as much as there isn't any on boats.
 
Fab looking boat alright and close to perfection for stern to berths.

I have a problem with the access from alongside though.

Seems to be the same with all Azimuts - big step onto the platform, then add fenders and a bit of wind and it becomes almost impossible.
 
MapisM, of course you are right but you have to assume that the designer has designed the windows for the forces that can be applied by the sea. In any case, the reality is that a boat like this will never be caught in the kind of extreme conditions that could break these windows. In any case, I would be more concerned about the huge saloon windows that you find on this boat and many others
 
the reason was Azimut and other yards following them in the use of huge windows was the advancement on the materials,

now when I first saw the rectangle shaped ones on the Mangustas, I said what this will do in big weather????
on an occasion a few years ago I was with an Azimut 68 Plus and we had a problem with one engine, the seastate was horrible Force 6-7 with 6 metres peaks of waves, definitly going at 7 knots to the side was extremely wet, but I can confirm there was not even a leak....
now I am not a fan of huge windows but what was my concern as is that of Mapis finally ended up in being a no problem situation apart from the engine...
 
Yup, I couldn't agree more - also re.saloon windows.
If we add the big and very angled helm windscreen to the equation, we'll surely agree that nobody will ever go tsunami-surfing with these boats... Well, not purposely!
But there are also other reasons why these windows do not make any sense.

First of all, they're useless in real boating life. Who on earth would prefer to look at a wonderful marine landscape from the cabin instead than from the saloon, or directly from outside when weather allows?
In my experience, there are just two ways to effectively use a cabin on a pleasure boat, and both are totally unaffected by the external scenery...
That's where a ship is very different, because cabins can be "lived" much more.

Secondly, they are a source of complications, which is something any designer should avoid in a boat, unless really necessary.
They add wide areas of poorly insulated surfaces.
Different materials and techniques are required to join them to the hull, with all the potential problems involved (cracks, leakages, etc.), particularly as time passes - let's talk about these windows after some seasons of cruising.
In turn, this means also additional building costs, which are obviously paid by the customer. I'd rather spend some grands in flashy underwater lights (just to mention another useless gadget) than in those windows. At least they might attract the attention of babes walking around marinas...
Last but not least, how long can they last as clean as you can see them in a boat show? There are already enough parts to clean on boats, I don't need another one, particularly where hardly reachable.
 
Nice layout, but is it really any better than an Aicon 56? Haven't seen the Azi in person so no idea.

Also, can't say I like the exterior looks (irrespective of colour, it's too busy to me).
 
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First of all, they're useless in real boating life. Who on earth would prefer to look at a wonderful marine landscape from the cabin instead than from the saloon, or directly from outside when weather allows?


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I don't agree with that. These big windows allow a huge amount of light into what is often a dark poky cabin and it would be wonderful to wake up in the morning and to be able to look out at the view. Does your bedroom at home only have a few porthole sized windows?
 
Go look at some of the older Azimut's with thru hull windows they have been doing them for ages and as they are a superyacht company (Benetti) they aren't going to fit windows that leak etc!!!!!!!
 
After watching the video, the flybridge kills the Aicon 56, but the remaining layout is good, but not better to me.

Interior styling is more modern, if that matters.
 
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Does your bedroom at home only have a few porthole sized windows?

[/ QUOTE ]Well, almost!
It's in the attic, with just a small window in the roof - same as in the nearby bathroom.
Dining room has four big windows, on the other hand...
Anyway, in this respect, each to their own of course.
I'm sure that the marketing guys at AZ who asked the designers to develop such solution did their homework properly, and realized that it would have been appealing to many people.
Which is what really matters from their viewpoint, at the end.
 
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Go look at some of the older Azimut's with thru hull windows

[/ QUOTE ]I did, that's why I'm talking.
 
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