Need to find hull identification number?

[Praxinoscope]

Thanks I will get in there .

I once got stuck in the lazarette on DIDO. I closed in the open bit at the bottom of the fuel tank ( the fuel tap under the tank was prone to get caught by a stray rope and shut off, it happened to the previous owner) but this addition made the lazarette just marginally smaller than it had been, and when I got into it to run some fresh wiring I found I couldn’t get out again, It took me about two hours to get out.

 

[Forfatsnakes]

Ref #13, I should have said a drying harbour like Aberaeron,, which can be a bit ‘choppy’ and has a stones bottom, I can see that Burry Port would be kinder on a long keeler like the Invicta.

Yes ! she is in burry port marina and has her own berth Unfortunately she leans over ever time the tide is out . The mud us so soft I can't put her legs down .

My boat was built in 2001 and, despite all assurances in the manual etc, there is decidedly no HIN.

Suspect the person you are dealing with at insurance company knows nothing about boats generally or 1970s boats in particular.

I agree with you !

 

[Forfatsnakes]

I once got stuck in the lazarette on DIDO. I closed in the open bit at the bottom of the fuel tank ( the fuel tap under the tank was prone to get caught by a stray rope and shut off, it happened to the previous owner) but this addition made the lazarette just marginally smaller than it had been, and when I got into it to run some fresh wiring I found I couldn’t get out again, It took me about two hours to get out.

Well on the other hand , I might just shine a torch in !

 

[alan_d]

Well on the other hand , I might just shine a torch in !

Or you could get one of THESE.

 

[Tranona]

Thanks for your advice , I am in burry port marina she spends roughly 20 hours a day resting on her keel .
My insurance company are saying they don't cover craft over 50 years old , mine was confirmed as a 1972 by a surveyor in November 2020 , they are just trying to avoid paying out .
Thanks for your help !

So it is the age that they are using to reject your claim rather than the model. If they accepted your proposal on the basis that it was 1972 and had sight of the surveyor's report then they can't reject your claim on that basis. Fine for them to refuse cover because of declared age, but once they have agreed cover they can't get out of it unless you deliberately gave false information.

As ever particularly with insurance, the devil is in the detail and you need from them precisely the grounds on which they are rejecting your claim. You also need to gather your evidence of exactly what you said on the proposal form so it is clear that they knew the age of the boat when agreeing the cover. Did they insist on seeing the survey before issuing cover? what other evidence do you have about the date the boat was built? do you have previous paperwork that described it as a 1972 boat - bills of sale. previous sale particulars? As I suggested earlier doubt you will find any documentary evidence from the period partly because apart from the invoice to the first owner there will have been little to identify individual boats and partly because all the players involved in building the boat are long gone.

 

[Forfatsnakes]

So it is the age that they are using to reject your claim rather than the model. If they accepted your proposal on the basis that it was 1972 and had sight of the surveyor's report then they can't reject your claim on that basis. Fine for them to refuse cover because of declared age, but once they have agreed cover they can't get out of it unless you deliberately gave false information.

As ever particularly with insurance, the devil is in the detail and you need from them precisely the grounds on which they are rejecting your claim. You also need to gather your evidence of exactly what you said on the proposal form so it is clear that they knew the age of the boat when agreeing the cover. Did they insist on seeing the survey before issuing cover? what other evidence do you have about the date the boat was built? do you have previous paperwork that described it as a 1972 boat - bills of sale. previous sale particulars? As I suggested earlier doubt you will find any documentary evidence from the period partly because apart from the invoice to the first owner there will have been little to identify individual boats and partly because all the players involved in building the boat are long gone.

They never asked to see the survey before I paid for the policy upfront , they only asked if I had one .
The paperwork I have is from the survey carried out in November 2020 where the surveyor described the boat as a 1972 mk2 model.
I have a bill of sale , from the person I bought it off as well .

 

[Forfatsnakes]

My 1967 Twister has a Tyler's grp hull and deck.

The hull number is inside the lazarette (stern locker), on an engraved plate fixed to the inside of the transom ,close up to the underside of the deck. It isn't easy to see unless you lie on your back on the cockpit sole with your head through the access door.

Might be worth exploring that area on your boat. The circular hatch might make it easier to see the number plate; if there is one there.

OK thank you.