Need help with back problems

Need some more information

Good morning WayneS,
when I saw your original post, I was optimistic that I can be of help but after reading your recent explanations . I am not so sure. My main concern is with the injections.
First , I am not a doctor . I only have first hand experience with what she's going through.
My back problems started with a accident(swimming pool) . sometime during 1976 . It's a long and miserable story until 1989 . when I discovered accidentally the remedy for my problem. I help with several of my friends and colleagues since then , it's very easy and it works unfortunately , I don't think it will work with persons who has had surgery and possibly injections. First , I am surprised that MRI did not show any abnormalities assuming it's a low back problems . here are a few things You can have her do first to determine if there's a chance that this will work for her.

First find out from her , if the pain in her hip is sciatica
is it on her left or right side , and if the pain radiates down and if it does how far?
If she's currently not taking any pain pills, ask her to find a position(any) were there is no pain exists . this is very important. there should be absolutely NO pain in that position.

one more time to make it clear, for instance , in my case , I had to lean my upper body to my right about 15°. In this position . not only I did not feel any pain but I felt great relief. she should be able to find at least one position.

This test that I'm going to ask You to do and all exercises that she does should be made with this one very important information in mind there should be NO discomfort.(This means if there is any discomfort whatsoever she must STOP.)
Have her lay on her back(all of the moves and exercises should be made with very slow motion) . use something like pillows to support her calves parallel to the floor, name of the body part that escapes me right now is the part between the knee and the hip should be vertical , should make any modification is necessary so there is no pain whatsoever.
Have her hold on to something that will not move.(Over her head in horizontal direction)
Now , You will hold on to her hip's and in slow motion pool her in the opposite direction of her head while You're gently pulling . she should let You know , if the pain decreases and if it does . when the pain is completely gone . You should maintain this pool for 20 to 30 seconds, force necessary for this will be some were around 10 to 15% of her body weight and if this test results in no pain, there's a good chance that she can be cured 100% depending on the severity . this can take between 1 month to 6 months.
By a stationary bike adjusted for the lowest setting of resistance and have her ride for a minimum of five minutes to make sure she does, stay with her . This stationary bike exercise conducted if there is No pain while riding.
Provided there's no objections from her doctor, she should consider taking anti-inflammatory over-the-counter medicine

she should not do any exercises just for sake of doing it , unless the exercise provides absolutely NO pain and during this period should stay away from anything that causes even the slightest pain or discomfort.

In the morning hot showers should be reduced to a warm temperatures and not directed in the low back area. And if possible during the day , if anything she does , causes a pain she should put the ice pack in that area as soon as possible, preferably within 30 minutes sooner the better . And keep it on for about five minutes.

This should give You some ideas and all of the above should be discussed with your doctor so there is nothing, is conflicting
all of the above information with assumptions it's a low back problem involving the disks number three to five.

Please send me a message if there are any questions.
While most people will tell You the exercise is the key keep it in mind no exercise should cause any discomfort in the affected area.
If the above information is useful for her I will share additional information in the future.
Best of luck. /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
Muzaffer

PS at one time I was told by a doctor, only solution to my problem was a surgery while it may be necessary in some cases; I believe majority of people with low back problems can be 100% normal, with proper exercising
 
I also have a history of back probs and really feel for your wife. http://www.ybw.com/forums/images/icons/frown.gif

Our bed has been crucial in making it possible to live aboard. We got the deluxe natural mat one, which they made to measure for our rather unusually shaped aft cabin without the slightest problem. It even has two little inset blocks which allow easy accessto the bilge pump and emergency steering without having to lift up whole bed.

I also got a thing from the Back Shop in Brighton (I don't know where else they're sold) which is like a moulded seat back in inflexible plastic which folds up. You can then put that where you like and sit on it to ensure your lower spine is properly supported. It's not terribly tough, so gets much more use down below.

Our nav table seat is also a modified back chair - one of those one which push your pelvis into the right position (I know how that sounds), a bit like one of those 'kneely chairs'. Visitors hate it, but I find it really useful when navigating at sea.

Given your wife's history I'm sure you've tried it, but I have always found acupuncture immensely useful (though painful) when things get really bad.

Best of luck with a solution as I'm sure neither of you want to give up!
 
Hi Wayne!
Sympathies to your wife but I think you are looking for more than amateur doctoring here? I certainly hope some of the suggestions given might help your wifes condition but assuming its chronic there is one answer that has not been addressed. Yes you have guessed it folks! A catamaran! The motion you get on a multihull is entirely different. No heeling, no need to balance on a sloping deck, and more room to move around. I have a friend in the west country whose wife is wheelchair bound with MS. They have a Marina berth and a special hoist to help her aboard their cat and have had it modified so that she can wheel herself from the very spacious cockpit to the deck saloon on her own. She loves sailing bless her and looks forward to the start of each season with enthusiasm. It seems from your post that your wife is by no means this disabled and just needs a bit more TLC and comfort which is exactly what brought me to multihull sailing in the first place.
Having "converted" in my early 50s from monohulls I then discovered the other advantages of a cat and like many who make the change would never go back.
I seriously recommend you consider it. The difference in creature comfort both underway and at anchor is enormous. I don't know your budget of course but a day down at the Multihull brokers in Emsworth looking over cruising cats (avoid the faster high performance ones) would be well spent. If you are a toff with lots of dosh give Rob Underwood at Broadblue marine a ring. His new 42 ft boat is a dream, and he would be happy to arrange a test sail but they aint cheap!
 
Physio vs Osteo

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i keep well away from osteotw@ts following a visit a severalyears ago had burst disc which needed removing and finally had to have spinal fusion.
not nice i assure you. physiotherapist was marvellous
straightened out back and gave me exercises to alleviate pain
all in my experience
Doug

[/ QUOTE ]Opposite experience here. Physio (on NHS recommendation) made things worse. Osteo kept me going before and after burst disc and operation!
Car journeys are still bad news. How long does it take your wife to get from Berkshire to boat? Possible that she's arriving in pain to begin with. Perhaps a gentle walk first would help.
 
Re: Physio vs Osteo

Having suffered with my back since a rugby injury in my teens I have had the op/physio/oesteo treatment for years.What makes sailing easier is

A) A mattress topper from a firm called Raskelf.It is the memory foam stuff.I had the 2" one which rolls up for stowage.They advertise in PBO & website is www.raskelf.com.It really works for me.

B) The back support seat with the curved top half makes sitting more comfortable.

C) An electric windlass helps or strong crew.

As an aside I have had much relief from a machine which does the sort of hip exercise described in other posts from a company called Backlife.Try a search on the web.
I have no association with any company but am just relating what works for me,making sailing possible.
 
A boat considerably bigger than 28 foot and with some displacement will definitely give more comfort through its motion in seas, etc being smoother as well as giving more room for moving about, bigger bunks, etc. Cats have been mentioned, but in my opinion one should try them first if thinking that way as some do not like their motion due to the very high GM.

But, and this may be entirely out of the question, have you considered a power boat. If you are a committed raggie and power boats are a dirty word then it is out of the question, but they do deliver a far more stable platform as well as one that can be very easy to get around on and to get on and off of.

To give an example of that ease I have an acquaintance who has been wheelchair bound for 30 years and he and his wife live (it is their only home) on a planing powerboat (around 40 foot though). It is one that has a transom with lift out gates in it and the floor of the cockpit is around the same level as most marina berth pontoons, so they just have a nice varnished boarding ramp for him and he can wheel himself straight through the transom into the cockpit, into the saloon, and helm position, etc - they go away for weeks at a time just him and wife and they are not chickens, so to speak.

As I say may be an anathema to consider it but mention it in case. It is what I would do myself as I am happy in either of MoBo's or sailboats.

John
 
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We have been to every Chiro, Osteo, Physio, Orthopaedic Surgeon that you can imagine. She has had MRI scans which show up nothing. She has had Collagen injections into her SI joints. She has had cortisone injections into her facet joints. Is I see one more "professional" say that nobody needs to live with back pain I am going to shove his stethoscope so far up his backside that he chokes on it. She takes massive doses of Voltaren et al.



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Hi Wayne,

I am actually MacMan's wife - he asked me if I could suggest anything as I am a registered complementary therapist. It sounds like you have tried a lot of things so I can understand your frustration.

Depending on how you/your wife feel about alternative therapies, perhaps therapeutic massage or some form of healing such as Reiki might help. I also agree with the person who suggested trying eliminating various foods from the diet to see if there is a negative reaction to a particular food. I am currently training in a new therapy called EFT (Emotional Freedom Technique) which I have used with great success on a client who has suffered for many years with severe cramps and pains that conventional drugs couldn't help. I notice from your profile you are in Berkshire - we are too - so if you want more details, let me know - there is more information on massage and Reiki on my website Click here
 
Quackery! eg Distance Reiki - you don't even need to turn up - the so called 'practitioner' justs pays attention to you for 15mins while you stay at home or in the office. Please, give me strength.
 
Don't knock it Brendan. Things like that work, deep inside you know that to be true. I know cos I can control and understand the universe from afar and by use of the Emotional Freedom Technique I have turned the rest of you into schizophrenics /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif.

And look at all these boats that get Reikied around the world, must be an explanation for that?

John
 
Grrr! How these quacks get away with charging for this sort of stuff is beyond me. Snake oil practitioners were outlawed years ago, yet this sort of medieval witchcraft is still allowed to fester.

Pay me $100 NZ and I'll think about you at 13:00 tomorrow your local time for 15 minutes, and you will be able to rule the universe and cause schizophrenia in all the forumites and wreck anyones boat who has annoyed you on the forum!

Oh, and your back won't pain you anymore either!
 
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