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udo

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Hello everybody,

I my hunt for finding a nice classic, I decided not to take the Koster discussed in the other thread started by me.
I did inspect on another one and I am curious about what the experts could recommend me to look for with the inspection.

The boat:

Linjekrysare, build in 1949, Varnished Oregon Pine, 29 feet, keel below the waterline: 1.2 meters.

Also curious to hear if people know this boat, because i am not able to find any information on the internet or sailguide.com

To me, it looks very similar as: a Nordic Krysare.
see here the link:

http://www.nordiskkryssare.org/index.html

any idea?


Here are the images from the Linjekrysare:

http://dev.colourcertainty.co.uk/01Images/Sweden-Sailing-Boats/2010/Linjekrysare/

The owner is selling purely because of his age.
He had the boat in his ownership since 1977

The boat is maintained in the classic way: not using modern techniques and varnished like Polyurethane, as far as I could understand.
The boat was held during the winter not under just a cover, but a boat / tent house, so the owner could work during autumn, winter (when not too cold) and spring.

Obviously he stayed on top of it and his estimate was that he spends around 30 - 40 hours outside the sailing season on maintenance.

During the years he had the odd leak thought the deck, but again, solved issue's as soon as he could. Therefore I spotted some wood damage / dis-colouring, but never in the hull. The biggest damage was in the mahogany plywood partition between the front and back side of the cabin (see images). According to the owner this happened 15 years ago and only the outside layer of the plywood is bubbling, but the inside is not rot, still hard. The hull looked very clean inside. The seems between the plans above the waterline seem to close completely after a week of sailing and therefore the hull will be completely closed.
The deck was not made out of plywood, but solid wooden slats, placed right next to each other, and I guess the deck and cabin roof is still covered in the old fashioned way with canvas.

The inboard engine was taken out after (I guess) was too expensive to repair, but it is still possible to put in a 2nd hand or new one + the fuel tank is still in the boat. For now the owner was using an outboard engine for a couple of years.

The boat comes with the outboard engine, winter storage boat tent and cradle, 9 year old main sail and 7 year old furlex roll genua.
Compas, Log (speed), but no depth meter or GPS. Wall electricity connection.

For a price which is probably very reasonable.

Any commends more than welcome.

Udo
 

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Good looking boat however spoilt by the outboard on the back.

Yes, true and also prefer inboard diesel for many practical reasons, but the space is still available for the inboard.

The boat is being offered for an absolute bargain price of EURO 4000 !

We can't have it all!

Udo
 

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I would be pondering the deck quite carefully. There are three indications of fresh water ingress - the quite extensive line of darkened wood at deck level inside the cabin, the ply veneers and the leak you observed. I've experienced similar signs and removed the deck (laid teak) to find substantial fresh water damage to half beams and beam shelf. Everything that was visible was hard!

I would want to check the hardness of the deck (on top and below) at all the edges. Even then, if hard I would suspect some unseen damage. I think you are in a difficult position to make judgements: The only way to be certain about the extent of damage is to remove the deck - of course an extensive piece of work but not impossible. If the owner has dealt with the leaks sensibly then all may be good for quite a while. The reality is at 4000 Euros, its not a lot of money for something like that.
 

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I would be pondering the deck quite carefully. There are three indications of fresh water ingress - the quite extensive line of darkened wood at deck level inside the cabin, the ply veneers and the leak you observed. I've experienced similar signs and removed the deck (laid teak) to find substantial fresh water damage to half beams and beam shelf. Everything that was visible was hard!

I would want to check the hardness of the deck (on top and below) at all the edges. Even then, if hard I would suspect some unseen damage. I think you are in a difficult position to make judgements: The only way to be certain about the extent of damage is to remove the deck - of course an extensive piece of work but not impossible. If the owner has dealt with the leaks sensibly then all may be good for quite a while. The reality is at 4000 Euros, its not a lot of money for something like that.


I for sure, have to make another visit. A visit in the pooring rain is maybe practical for finding leaks, but not the right condition for saying: wow! It was really so cold outside in the rain!
 

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She is a beauty Udo. However, the sloop looked superb as well.

Did you consider that boat at all?

I admire the care needed for these old boats. But in Swerige, you have a short season and a long maintenance period. Here in the Med, I have the opposite and sail too much to keep such a boat.

Well done.
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