Moving from Brighton to the Med - we're off!

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I've had my Fairline Targa 40 for three seasons now, all based at Brighton. I love the boat and our first season on her was fab; the high point was probably a lovely September day when we decided to turn right out of the marina and see how far we could get - and the result was Dartmouth (trip report and videos here).

Second season, 2010, was ok although the patchy UK weather kept getting in the way. We still managed a few good trips though, and the highlight of the year was definitely our cruise in company with Illusion of this forum (dolphin report and wobbly video here).

But 2011 was rubbish; the decent weather only turned up in April (when we were away) and in October; for the rest of the summer we just didn't seem to get the opportunities. For a while now the idea of trying a med season has been in the back of my mind, and at the end of the 2011 season I asked the forum for opinions on the best small boat for the med. The consensus seemed to be to keep the boat you know, and mod it for the med - rather than having a wholesale change to a boat you don't know, with potential probs you don't yet know about, in a location you don't know. Fair enough.

So in November I headed down to Antibes in the south of France to do a bit of work, and to have a look at a couple of berths. It seems that the berth situation in the SoF is a bit different to what we're used to in the UK - here, you get an annual contract with a marina which gives you a berth with security of tenure for the period of the contract. When you want to go off on a trip, marina hopping is pretty easy, you can usually get a space, and it's all straightforward and transparent.

Down in SoF the marina berths seem to be mostly privately owned, and so if you rent you are largely at the whim of the owner and/or the capitanerie. This means that if you are unlucky you can find yourself suddenly without a berth in the high season with just a few weeks notice - ie it appears that there's no security of tenure. (However, bear in mind that I am a complete novice to the SoF scene so I could be very wrong about all this...). If you want security - then buy a lease. Taking Port Vauban in Antibes as an example - a lease expiring at the end of 2021 for a 15m x 5m berth might typically have an asking price of say e250k, plus annual service charge to the port of say e3k - so a crude total of about e28k pa. If you can get a rental, then for the same sized berth you might be looking at about e18k pa all in. From a simple financial perspective (and ignoring the point about security of tenure) then renting seems to be significantly more attractive than buying a lease.

Anyway, back to the story: I had a look at a couple of berths for sale in Port Vauban, but the numbers didn't really work, and I didn't particularly like the location of the specific berths. Mole Sud in PV is the prime location, but my 12m Fairline Targa is a bit too, ahem, modest to live there without appearing to be somebodies tender...

Then I got a wholly unexpected PM regarding a rental berth that was available in Port de la Rague, which is between Mandelieu and Theoule Sur Mer. I'd never been to the port before, so I hopped on the train to have a look - and it is lovely. We have friends in Mandelieu, so it all looked promising. All I needed now was swmbo's approval and I could get things moving. A couple of days later she turned up, had a look, liked it - and the deal was done.

Next thing was to work out what the boat would need to make it ready for the SoF. This is my to-do list:
- engine and leg service
- antifoul and polish
- install air conditioning
- install underwater lights (once you've seen them in action in med seas you'll know why)
- increase the length of the anchor chain
- reupholster the sunpad on the garage and the coachroof cushions
- organise transport for the boat
- buy a load of flights

I'm a bit wary of lifting the boat, doing a load of work below the waterline, and then not putting it back in the water until it is several hundred miles away. So what I've decided to do is lift it, do the servicing, aircon and underwater lights, put it back in the water here in the UK for a couple of weeks and try everything out properly, then lift it again, do the antifoul and cosmetics, and then get it on to transport and away.

First part of the plan was to line up all the suppliers. We have an excellent relationship with RK Marine at the top of the Hamble, so they were the obvious choice for the servicing work. After a bit of research at the boat show, we did a show deal on an aircon system from Dometic, who recommended Seacraft Marine for the installation. Underwater lights have to be Lumishore. C&J Marine came and had a look at the boat in Brighton and with a bit of luck (they haven't confirmed this yet) they'll be doing the sunpads and some other upholstery changes.

Fairline Southampton have been relentlessly helpful, as they have throughout my ownership of the boat. They'll be assisting with the prep of the boat for trucking, and they've recommended Coast to Coast for the transport.

So the first step on the road to the Med is to say goodbye to Brighton, and move the boat to Swanwick so that all the prep work can be carried out. I spoke to the marina office at Brighton, who were incredibly helpful. It turns out that Premier have relaxed their visitor night policy - so now you get 42 visitor nights which you can use without restriction in any other Premier marina, subject availability. So to move the boat to Swanwick for a few weeks to get all the work done was going to cost me ... nothing. I'll just use my visitor nights.

In terms of timings, I thought that I'd need a couple of weeks in Swanwick for the servicing works, a couple of weeks back in the water to try things out, and a week or so for the cosmetics. Allowing for some contingency time, and a bit of flexibility with the transport company, this meant that the boat would need to move to Swanwick from Brighton during the last week of January if I'm going to have a reasonable chance of getting her in commission in La Rague by say the end of March, ready for the season.

So a couple of days ago, it all began: this is Vega on her berth at Brighton on Friday, about an hour before I left:

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And this is where I hope to end up. This is Port de la Rague:

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So, this is it. We're off! Wish us luck...

Cheers
Jimmy
 
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Good Luck

Hey Jimmy,

Glad to hear you are making the leap...I wont be long behind you hopefully..I am done here.
Keep us informed of progress and hope all the mods work out.

regards
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Good luck with the move Jimmy, Port de la Rague looks like a nice spot. I am sure you will love the SoF.
 

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Woohoo!!
Champagne on ice for your arrival. Good luck with everything
Sending this from PV and it's just lovely here (boat tinkering with...)
I owe you a pm reply, sorry, mad busy, will do asap
Best wishes
 

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Congratulations and good luck Jimi, Port de la Rague looks lovely!!

Would love to do something similar.. one day :)
 

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Wow - big step!

Good luck indeed - we're looking forward to the pictures... :D

How do you think the annual boating hours will compare? I'm sure they'll be more enjoyable not having to fit in weather windows, but will you get out there enough (assuming you'll still be UK based)?

Looks a great spot.
 

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I'm not even sure if we can rely on our annual meet at LIBS, Jimmy!
Safe trip, and here is hoping you have a great season.
 

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Hi Jimmy,

Interesting to here your move . I too have thought long and hard about moving to better weather berth but I could not get my head around the berthing arrangements and costs. Dident want Spain but France sounds good. At the moment I travel on flight circa 1 hour to get to my boat but have the advantage of someone who looks after it all the time so I know its safe.
Do you have stern to mooring? and do you have the mooring for as long as you want or just the one season?
 

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How do you think the annual boating hours will compare? I'm sure they'll be more enjoyable not having to fit in weather windows, but will you get out there enough (assuming you'll still be UK based)?

Being based in Brighton marina, we're kinda used to every trip to somewhere other than Brighton starting with the schlep to the Solent. So until now our boating has either been very short trips, ie 2nm off Brighton and then float on the tide, or 50nm to somewhere Solenty - but no middle ground.

As far as I can tell, down in SoF the big difference is that there are a ton of places to visit right on your doorstep. We've been taken to the Iles des Lerins off Cannes on a handful of occasions by other forumites - a lovely spot. Our new berth is 4nm away. Antibes is about 9nm away (I think), and Villefranche (another pretty location) about 20nm away. So in terms of mileages I think for the first season at least it will all be local - simply because there is such a lot to look at, and it's all right there.

In terms of time on board, 2011 was a pretty feeble attempt by us. I think I can count on the fingers of one hand the number of nights we spent on board. In fact, I think I can even afford to have an accident with a chop saw and still count on the remaining fingers of one hand etc. For 2012, I have booked about a dozen return flights over the summer, which roughly equates to every other weekend from Easter through to mid October.

Because it's so far (at best, a four hour journey) each trip needs to be for a few nights - so if we come down for every weekend we've booked, we'll be on board for 60 nights this summer.

This is all a big experiment for me - I feel like I've been talking about trying the med for ages, so now I just need to stop waiting for the perfect moment and just get on with it. One possible outcome, of course, is that it won't work out at all, will prove to be impossibly inconvenient and frighteningly expensive. In which case we will just bring the boat back at the end of the season and carry on where we left off in Brighton.

Cheers
Jimmy
 

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Move to SOF.

Good luck sir& look forward to all the reports & pics of course,safe trip,regards mm1.
 

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Jimmy

Hope it all works out really well for you and H.

Do hope we get a chance to catch up with you before you head South.

WARNING.....I think it is only fair to point out that as far as I can make out these Med based boaters seem to like their drink! :eek::D Two references spring to mind;

1) "I saw some limes in the fruit bowl", automatically = Bombay Sapphire, ice and tonic, and
2) "Watch out for that dangerous Bar in this Cala." Translation is not, " Mind how you go skipper when entering and laeving", but = "I have got very pi**ed in the beach bar here several times before!"


NB I think you are acquainted with the authors of both comments!!! :D:D:D
 
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Do you have stern to mooring? and do you have the mooring for as long as you want or just the one season?

Yep, it's conventional (ie stern-to) med mooring - another new thing to learn. Also on my shopping list is a passerelle - just an ordinary folding one, retrofitting a passerelle to a T40 is a very expensive exercise. In terms of berth security - no, we don't have it as long as we want, we are in the hands of the owner, same as any other renter down there.

Cheers
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"Watch out for that dangerous Bar in this Cala." Translation is not, " Mind how you go skipper when entering and laeving", but = "I have got very pi**ed in the beach bar here several times before!"

Are you talking about a Spanish Cala in Mallorca?
If so, Jimmy do you think you will make it to the Balearics sometime?
If so, we could try and get another Wokingham meet over there. :D:D:D

To put the distances into perspective its 155 miles from Brighton to Dartmouth and only 245 miles from your part of the Sof to Menorca.
You would probably need to hop via Corsica though.
 
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Hi Jimmy,
Travel time for me . Fromleving house to getting to boat is about 4 hours. Get organised and only take hand luggage. That saves loads of time. Brighton to Gawick is a doddle. We book our car in at the same time as booking our flights and usually get a bit of a discount.

We have tended to try to go most alternative weekends in the summer, getting last flight out on a Thursday night and last one in on a Sunday and its surprising how refreshed you can feel with only afew days away and the other thing is as when you land you are "away" the pressure is not on to cast off and go somewhere.

I just wish I was further sount than I am.
 

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Good luck to you both, I'm sure with all your careful planning things will work out just perfect.
We'll miss bobing around the South Coast with you, but hopefully can catch up with you at some point in the SoF (should be out in Cannes in June).

Of course the good thing for all us UK boaters, is we'll probably now have the best summer in years!!

Catch up with you in Swanwick before you disappear.

P,M & H
 

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Well, we'll miss you too, but hopefully we'll see you and H before you go (tho not due down in Swanwick till weekend after next).

I think you made the right call on keeping the T40.

We're taking baby steps towards the same thing - Intraventure moves to a berth in St Helier late May and will be in the CI's and Brittany all summer. It's exciting to be moving and trying something new, even if only to Jersey.

Good luck!
 

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Jimmy do you think you will make it to the Balearics sometime?

I think for this first try-out season I don't expect to be doing any long-distance cruises - it's more about enjoying all the great stuff that is right there on the doorstep. It could all change of course but that's my expectation at the moment. However, the prospect of another non-local Wokingham meet is very appealing ... :D.

Cheers
Jimmy
 
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