ccscott49
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She´s not a prawner.
Morecambe Bay Prawner?
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ValleyForge
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I'll put my t'uppence on her being a 1900's una boat (early Windermere 17'er or 1 rater ?), but with cut down rig & cabin etc. The 1800's 22'ers were I think a lot bigger - they had 3 + crew & massive rigs.
Or of course summat French.
Or of course summat French.
Lakesailor
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Our butcher has a share in an Una and I will show him this pic today.
I think it's too big for that as they were, as you say, a smaller version of the 22' class boat.
I will report back.
I think it's too big for that as they were, as you say, a smaller version of the 22' class boat.
I will report back.
ianc1200
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Assuming a Morecambe Bay Prawner is the same as a "Nobby" (showing my ignorance here) if you have a look at this For Sale page and scroll down to MARYLL doesn't the in the slings photgraph illustrate the type quite well?
See
http://www.eastcoastclassics.co.uk/pics2002.htm
regards
IanC
See
http://www.eastcoastclassics.co.uk/pics2002.htm
regards
IanC
Lakesailor
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I've shown the picture to our butcher and he is not sure. It's not a Una as he has a share in one and that is smaller, with no bow sprit, one headsail and no cabin.
Apart from the straight stem it's very like the Nobby.
Apart from the straight stem it's very like the Nobby.
ValleyForge
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I guess (hope) the owners looking at this lot & laughing his socks off ! You'd better find out this weekend & tell us. And then give us another ...
cliffordpope
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Several key differences though:
1) straight stem
2) bowsprit angles up, not horizontal
3) flat counter stern, not rounded.
1) straight stem
2) bowsprit angles up, not horizontal
3) flat counter stern, not rounded.
Lakesailor
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Bay of Biscay Prawner?
Ah ha.
My spies have been out.
It's repro.
It's a French design and is only six years old. Built in Hawkshead by OpenWorld yachts.
No wonder it's been difficult to pin down.
Ah ha.
My spies have been out.
It's repro.
It's a French design and is only six years old. Built in Hawkshead by OpenWorld yachts.
No wonder it's been difficult to pin down.
Phoenix of Hamble
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Re: Bay of Biscay Prawner?
Whatever... she's a treat on the eye
Whatever... she's a treat on the eye
ValleyForge
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Re: Bay of Biscay Prawner?
Mon Dieu ! She's not called the 'Surprise' then !
Mon Dieu ! She's not called the 'Surprise' then !
jhr
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Re: Bay of Biscay Prawner?
Perhaps it's Capt. Rene Tremblere's beautiful yacht, the Surcouf? /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
Perhaps it's Capt. Rene Tremblere's beautiful yacht, the Surcouf? /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
ValleyForge
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Re: Bay of Biscay Prawner?
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Re: Bay of Biscay Prawner?
I hope you are able to speak to him before he rips the main with his reefing.
Very nice boat.
I hope you are able to speak to him before he rips the main with his reefing.
Very nice boat.
Lakesailor
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Re: Bay of Biscay Prawner?
We're a little unsure about the Openworld Yachts connection. Definitely built in Hawkshead about 6 years ago though.
We're a little unsure about the Openworld Yachts connection. Definitely built in Hawkshead about 6 years ago though.
Kristal
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Re: Bay of Biscay Prawner?
She's lovely. Is it just me, or is the other yacht in the picture not suffering from the same lack of wind as she is? Is this the Cumbrian version of the peculiar wind one gets on the Norfolk Broads?
I don't know much about gaffers, but it looks to me as if, owing to the lack of clew-line and the subsequent lack of leech tension, they've used the topping lift to prevent the boom taking their heads off with every tack.
And don't gaffers usually have a topping lift doubled from the mast to the boom and back again? I always thought this was a design feature to assist people like me who are useless with gaff rig in getting the damned extra stick down within easy reach of the crew...
I'm the last person who ought to be nitpicking about such things, and from reading the varied replies to this posting, the next time someone points a camera at Crystal, I'm starting the engine and getting out of range before they can get a recognisable picture of her!!
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She's lovely. Is it just me, or is the other yacht in the picture not suffering from the same lack of wind as she is? Is this the Cumbrian version of the peculiar wind one gets on the Norfolk Broads?
I don't know much about gaffers, but it looks to me as if, owing to the lack of clew-line and the subsequent lack of leech tension, they've used the topping lift to prevent the boom taking their heads off with every tack.
And don't gaffers usually have a topping lift doubled from the mast to the boom and back again? I always thought this was a design feature to assist people like me who are useless with gaff rig in getting the damned extra stick down within easy reach of the crew...
I'm the last person who ought to be nitpicking about such things, and from reading the varied replies to this posting, the next time someone points a camera at Crystal, I'm starting the engine and getting out of range before they can get a recognisable picture of her!!
/<
Lakesailor
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Re: Bay of Biscay Prawner?
No, on this occasion there really was no wind. Those other boats are just airing their sails really. If you get a bit of wash they flap like they mean business, but nothing happens. We put our sails up and took them down again and continued with the motor.
A chopper passed down the lake and created a bit of a breeze for a couple of minutes. (really)
No, on this occasion there really was no wind. Those other boats are just airing their sails really. If you get a bit of wash they flap like they mean business, but nothing happens. We put our sails up and took them down again and continued with the motor.
A chopper passed down the lake and created a bit of a breeze for a couple of minutes. (really)
