Fbrogaard
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Hey, so I'm a sucker for long keels but have a hard time coming by any newer models with above features. What's out there?
Thanks!
Thanks!
Modern, full/long keel and ideally cutter rigged
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wombat88
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There is an interesting looking boat called a North Beach 24 which might appeal
Boat detail - Zuiderzee Jachtmakelaars
Boat detail - Zuiderzee Jachtmakelaars
rotrax
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Island Packet fit the bill. Can be expensive and are quite Marmite - you love them or you hate them!
We have had two. The build quality is extremely good. Our previous model, a 350, was 16 years old when sold. She was regularly thought to be an almost new boat by berth neighbours. Their greatest attribute is their comfort alongside or on the hook in my opinion. They have a steady motion at sea compared to lighter yachts.
They were designed to be used by a retired couple and are extremly well laid out for ease of use.
Other long keel cutter rigged yachts are available....................................
We have had two. The build quality is extremely good. Our previous model, a 350, was 16 years old when sold. She was regularly thought to be an almost new boat by berth neighbours. Their greatest attribute is their comfort alongside or on the hook in my opinion. They have a steady motion at sea compared to lighter yachts.
They were designed to be used by a retired couple and are extremly well laid out for ease of use.
Other long keel cutter rigged yachts are available....................................
Lucy52
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Sybarite
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What size?
Fbrogaard
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preferably 35-45 feet
Fbrogaard
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not necessarily new design, rather just relatively new and not from the 70's as most full keels are
Carib
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Here are some GRP long-keeled boats (i.e. rudder attached to the keel) which have been built relatively recently - if by that you mean in the last 25-30 years in some cases!
Still built:
Rustler 36
Island Packets
Tradewind 35 ( think still available for build by Lion Yachts in Holland);
No longer built but 90s or later:
Vancouver 28, 32, 34, 34P,38P (Northshore went bust in c.2013, may be some very late models around);
Frances 26, Victoria 26/30 (too small for you - up to c. late 1990s)
Barbican 30 (ditto, built to early 90s(?))
Cornish Crabbers (30ish feet or less)
There may be a couple more, but it's inevitably a very short list.
Still built:
Rustler 36
Island Packets
Tradewind 35 ( think still available for build by Lion Yachts in Holland);
No longer built but 90s or later:
Vancouver 28, 32, 34, 34P,
Frances 26, Victoria 26/30 (too small for you - up to c. late 1990s)
Barbican 30 (ditto, built to early 90s(?))
Cornish Crabbers (30ish feet or less)
There may be a couple more, but it's inevitably a very short list.
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E39mad
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Vancouver 36 - designed as a cutter from the outset (as were all Vancouvers) rather than being modified to become a cutter. The 36 (later became the 38C) has an encapsulated long fin keel and most surprisingly almost as much space inside as a Bowman 40.
Think only 10 or 11 of the 36's were built but they are fabulous boats.
Other boats worth a look:
Warrior 38/40
Bowman 40
Saltram Saga
Sovereign 40
Think only 10 or 11 of the 36's were built but they are fabulous boats.
Other boats worth a look:
Warrior 38/40
Bowman 40
Saltram Saga
Sovereign 40
doug748
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Too large but interesting, the Kraken 50 is fin and skeg:
Kraken Yachts | 50 ft Sailing Yacht | K50 Yacht
At the other end I think there is the Yarmouth 23:
Yarmouth 23 motor sailor
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Kraken Yachts | 50 ft Sailing Yacht | K50 Yacht
At the other end I think there is the Yarmouth 23:
Yarmouth 23 motor sailor
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Carib
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Ah yes, the Vancouver 36 looks very good indeed - here's one for sale! (there's also a US designVancouver 36 I think, which is different).
But if we're talking a long fin (hard to define) + cutter rigged (versus a traditional long keel which is only the Saltram above), I'd add the Victoria 38 and 34, also Chuck Paine designs like the Bowman and very similar in concept, plus the later Rivals.
Lucy52
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If you would accept a long fin and skeg then this Nic 39 ketch might suiit, though you might need to change some of the upholstery.
1979 Nicholson 39 Ketch Walton on the Naze, United Kingdom - Clarke and Carter
Drawing https://sailboatdata.com/sailboat/nicholson-39
Edit: Sorry, "Sale Pending"
1979 Nicholson 39 Ketch Walton on the Naze, United Kingdom - Clarke and Carter
Drawing https://sailboatdata.com/sailboat/nicholson-39
Edit: Sorry, "Sale Pending"
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neil1967
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Depending on the depth of your pocket, Oysters might fit your bill - more long fin with skeg than full length keel. Mid 80s-90s yachts are 'reasonably' priced.
dunedin
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Welcome to the forum.
It might be helpful if you could outline what your sailing / voyaging plans are (in general terms), and what about these plans means that long keel and cutter rig appeals. Also a rough budget.
There are pros and cons for these features.
- Long keels are sometimes considered better for long “Blue Water” ocean voyages (though open to debate). For coastal day sailing in and out of marinas they can make manoevering much more tricky. And potentially slower in between ports.
- Again cutter rigs often appeal for ocean crossing. But may be more hassle on inshore trips, pointing lower and more difficult to tack (and a modern rig of blade jib and asymmetric on furler could be more effective).
Buck Turgidson
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Nobody builds full keel yachts anymore unless you commission a Rusler 36.
the 37 is longish in the same way that Contest or Oyster are.
It's called progress.
So if you drop "modern from your thread title you might find something you like.
the 37 is longish in the same way that Contest or Oyster are.
It's called progress.
So if you drop "modern from your thread title you might find something you like.
rotrax
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Google Island Packet Yachts Model Range 2020 Buck.
At least five in the range last time I looked, all with Island Packets long keel, 3 cutter rigged.
Two new models within the last year.
As I said in #3, expensive. And Marmite.
But plenty available new and used.
Exactly what the OP asked for, long keel, cutter rigged.
I am sure they would be delighted to take an order.................................
Zagato
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I find it really sad long keels are a dieing breed.
I think Cornish Crabbers still offer the Mystery 35 EDIT it is a fin keel
Mystery 35 - Cornish Crabbers
What about an older Mason 44 Cutter, made in Thailand I believe, I read a report that some of the fittings were not up to par but the main structure fine. TOm Cunliffe has one so I presume it should be OK. I remember is remark thanking the fact that he has a fully encapsulated long keel when he bumped the bottom of a canal as two ships past sucking the water leveł low momentarily! Fin keels are cheaper to make I suppose...
I think Cornish Crabbers still offer the Mystery 35 EDIT it is a fin keel
Mystery 35 - Cornish Crabbers
What about an older Mason 44 Cutter, made in Thailand I believe, I read a report that some of the fittings were not up to par but the main structure fine. TOm Cunliffe has one so I presume it should be OK. I remember is remark thanking the fact that he has a fully encapsulated long keel when he bumped the bottom of a canal as two ships past sucking the water leveł low momentarily! Fin keels are cheaper to make I suppose...
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pauldowrick
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Sorry. I bought that one.
Zagato
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This 1989 Rustler 36 has been well looked after and is nicely presented. Seems an awful lot of money at £75,000 however.
Rustler 36 for sale UK, Rustler boats for sale, Rustler used boat sales, Rustler Sailing Yachts For Sale 1989 Rustler 36 - Apollo Duck
Rustler 36 for sale UK, Rustler boats for sale, Rustler used boat sales, Rustler Sailing Yachts For Sale 1989 Rustler 36 - Apollo Duck
James W
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Blame the GGR for huge price rises in Rustler 36’s!