MOBO and anchoring!

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I was out sailing the weekend and along with my lady and friends aboard decided to anchor in a lovely little bay down near Poole.

We checked the tidal range added the height of CD and put out six times, as we had a mixture of warp and chain.

Two hours into our lazy stay we observed a MOBO, a ski boat type but larger come into the bay and drop their pick on top of ours!! I pointed out that they have done this and received a torrent of abuse and was told that I should go and learn how to anchor and that I had far to much cable out. They went and swam to the beach, and I decided to weigh anchor and get out of there. As we motored fwd I had to untie our bitter end and pass it around theirs so I could leave.

I know this was way out of order with regard to their behaviour, but could the panel please put my mind at rest, CD plus tidal range X 6 due to the fact that I have chain and Warp?

Not going there again!!!
 
Thats a perfectly acceptable scope in anything but the most crowded of anchorages.... and then with some warp in the rode, i'd avoid anchorages where I couldn't get that scope laid out anyway...

so to put your mind at ease... you did absolutely nothing wrong... it was them wot dunnit.....
 
GCO

You are correct in your practice of 6 X.

However, a short stay, calm conditions no tide running, you could use less if the holding is good. But you must keep a better anchor watch.

Did you get the boat name etc, and tell the authorities?

Al.
 
Apologies on their behalf.

If it had been me, it would have been an "ooops, sorry" and try again further away.

6x is at the upper end of what is needed on a calm day, but it's up to "whoever arrives last" to keep clear of the existing anchorees and their tackle.

dv.
 
Nice touch to apologise but hey, No need from you. Those Scroats need to do it! But we know they wouldn't.

You sir are a Gent!

Have a pint. /forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

Al.
 
Can we let it be said that not all mobos are like this! /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

I for one, even in my little baby, still need to drop anchor in certain places, and would definitely give a very wide berth to those around me /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
 
Not that it makes a huge difference ... but for lunch stops I tend to use 5:1 (more if on a rising tide) - especially as Lunch at anchor is when it is nice to do so... doesn't make a jot of difference though - he may not have realised where your anchor was - but no need to be nasty about it.
 
well I am going to admit to having done similar in Newton Creek one night when we were unable to get into Yarmouth (4 boats - all from here) It was very crowded and as I went to drop the hook I was hailed from a long way away to the effect that their hook was there (not from down tide!). I suggested they might like to reaquaitthemselves with it rather than effectively occupy such a large space but they declined and I dropped the hook, rafted with 3 others and settled it. I felt bad and went over with a bottle int eh tender but they declined and complained that eventually they would drift over. They did. They had about 25m all chain out in 3m - but weren;t actually sitting to it in a F0 night. Unfortunately they ended up leaving and I still feel guilty but you do have to 'follow the crowd' to a certain degree. We danced all night in concert with every other boat in the area.

this doesn't imply I think you were excessive here btw - just sharing the picture.

finally in Poole you will often find that people anchor in some areas when the tide isn;t going anywhere - last weekend it wouldn't have moved 2ft between midday and 1700h either day, including Studland Bay, so people will stick out 3x end of - mind you that was the high so your 6x wouldn't have been much different. I know I had 12x out near long island Saturday by mistake - but only after I went to recover (we were only in 1m!)
 
For a lunchtime stop of just a couple of hours in reasonable conditions crew on board, your anchoring allowance is a bit anti social. Depends, I suppose - on the Scottish west coast with no one else likely to be around you can use 10 times without problem but in a "lovely little bay near Poole", using 6 times is a bit like using 2 parking spaces in the city center.

And whats this about adding range to CD? What is needed is the max depth you will be in during your 2 hours which will be the actual depth you anchor in plus any tide rise. Thats what a depth sounder and the rule of twelvths is for.

Finally, did you buoy the anchor? If you didnt, the mobo man is guessing where your anchor lies, and like most mobos he is probably not too familiar with that bent metal thingy at the pointed end. So he probably guessed a conservative 3 times actual depth away from you bow rather than where it was.

All IMHO but you did ask!

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I feel this is a very balanced response and agree whole heartedly.

By the way Goldcoastone welcome to the forum, just a pity your first post seems to be targeting Mobo or ( MOBO ) owners? If you really just wanted to ask a question about scope, there was no need for the title chosen?
 
Its not always a MOBO, we anchored at Pilsey Isl in Chi harbour a couple of years ago, there was a bit of a breeze blowing, and as anyone who knows the area will tell you there is a strong current on a spring ebb.

As I was having a power nap /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif down below, SWMBO called me to look at a boat (sailing) that was shearing about all over the place, he had a lot of lightweight rope cable down that gave him a swinging arch that took up most of the anchorage.

When he finished up alongside us and refused to shorten his scope we decided to move!
 
I agree. 6X CD+ tidal range for a lunch time stop over is anti-social (even in the West Coast of Scotland).

3X max estimated depth during stay is more than sufficient and if one drags either run out a little more scope or try resetting the anchor.

I agree with others about a tripping line and marker buoy - then others can see where your hook is.
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I agree with others about a tripping line and marker buoy - then others can see where your hook is.

[/ QUOTE ] Except a few daft sods seem to think it is a mooring buoy and pick it up!
Also - the marker buoy can be a pain in a more crowded anchorage where it is normal for another boat to be positioned very close or even over the top of your anchor.
 
It doesn't sound excessive in a large non-crowded anchorage. Even if it were, there's no need for the other boats rudeness. Just for that I would be tempted to haul up their anchor with mine and drop it again when I had untangled it, which would be further off the beach.

I think you were very restrained and don't view this as anti mobo, just anti rudeness.
 
Dont worry about it. During the last Fleet review, we had some Cabaret in Stokes Bay where we were moored. A Sunseeker came in, dropped his hook where he expected to park and was quite surprised that the boat rode back and onto other moored boats. After 6 attempts he gave up ... and then ... his place was taken by another Mobo, who gaily drove up and dropped their hook, and within a minute went below decks, leaving the boat to collide with another perfectly moored Mobo, who spent several frantic minutes getting fenders out to prevent damage to their hull.
Conclusion: it appears that some Mobo drivers follow the same same traits as BMW drivers - normal drivers with the brain taken out
 
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