Missing yachtswoman in South west.

fergie_mac66 said:
on the web site not on my screen shot sorry !
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I've hovered over Lands End on the zoomed out website AIS map - hovered and hovered! To no avail. Unfortunately you don't seem to be able to zoom in on the historical AIS maps- just select another one looking at the relevant area.
If, as you say, the lifeboat was out on Saturday they were very alert - my understanding was that the alarm was raised on Sunday.
 
Wandering Star said:
If I was looking for a "sailing" cause for the accident, I'd agree this one would be my most likely guess. But the reason (until now) I haven't hazarded any guesses of my own is because there is probably potential for any number of bizarre accidents that could have caused the tragedy, anything from slipping down the companionway steps and knocking herself out (been there, got the T shirt), to trapping yourself in the Head, to having a heart attack - there are just so many sensible and bizarre combinations of what might have happened that evening. All of them resulting in the boat sailing herself onto rocks. We'll probably never know what actually happened.

Cheers, Brian.
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I HAVE fallen down the companionway of my Moody31 (in the marina!) and in doing so cracked a rib by landing on the bulkhead forward of the chart-table. The companionway is steep, and the steps (being wood with grooves for non-slip) are slippery when wet if you don't put your foot full on them. There are ample substantial hand-holds, but you must use them! The cabin sole is a long way down from the cockpit; there are 5 steps (I think!). I could imagine someone new to a Moody 31 falling and injuring themselves. I was unable to do much for a while after falling; I had the breath knocked out of me and was in great pain, and remained in considerable pain for several days; bad enough that I felt I couldn't drive.

However, while my experience says you can't rule this out as a possibility, it is still just speculation as a cause for this tragedy.
 
A1Sailor said:
I've hovered over Lands End on the zoomed out website AIS map - hovered and hovered! To no avail. Unfortunately you don't seem to be able to zoom in on the historical AIS maps- just select another one looking at the relevant area.
If, as you say, the lifeboat was out on Saturday they were very alert - my understanding was that the alarm was raised on Sunday.
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Yes i have deleted some of my posts so I apologise to any concerned it does seem be a an error caused by the zoom levels :o:o the small scale does and the large vessel icons does seem to show.. well when in a hole stop digging :o
 
chanelyacht said:
There is no radar surveillance of the Lands End TSS (or indeed any other area outside the Dover TSS).
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Bass point coastwatch has radar and it is used during watch hours, also has AIS. You can speak to them on 01326 290212. I nudged the CG to tell a yacht this after they asked for help with traffic near their position, have to say the CG was a bit testy.

The alarm was not raised until she failed to arrive or make contact Sunday PM.

Given the tide and wind conditions in the area, and the distribution of wreckage a rundown is extremely unlikely, the boat must have broken up almost in Sennen.
 
fisherman said:
Bass point coastwatch has radar and it is used during watch hours, also has AIS. You can speak to them on 01326 290212. I nudged the CG to tell a yacht this after they asked for help with traffic near their position, have to say the CG was a bit testy.

The alarm was not raised until she failed to arrive or make contact Sunday PM.

Given the tide and wind conditions in the area, and the distribution of wreckage a rundown is extremely unlikely, the boat must have broken up almost in Sennen.
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that is a very helpful post thanyyou on behalf of the interested. I shall get my coat . but again apologise for drawing attention to the ais large scale :o
 
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Wont quote as the num will be shown. but i would edit tel num out of last post and pm to relevant parties if they ask as it might get inundated with callers!
 
chanelyacht said:
Without commenting on the specific incident, our own AIS would be checked as part of the initial search. Of course, a large number of pleasure vessels don't carry AIS.

There is no radar surveillance of the Lands End TSS (or indeed any other area outside the Dover TSS).
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J'oburg off the CI TSS is surely!
 
fergie_mac66 said:
Wont quote as the num will be shown. but i would edit tel num out of last post and pm to relevant parties if they ask as it might get inundated with callers!
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Eh?

It's not someone's home telephone number, it's the contact number for the National Coastwatch Institution's lookout station. It's published in Reeds, and on the NCI web site.

It's the sort of facility that should be widely published.

What exactly do you imagine is going to happen?

Pete
 
fisherman said:
Bass point coastwatch has radar and it is used during watch hours, also has AIS. You can speak to them on 01326 290212. I nudged the CG to tell a yacht this after they asked for help with traffic near their position, have to say the CG was a bit testy.
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The problem with NCI radar is (a) we don't know what its calibration status is, (b) operators are not V103 trained and therefore what they see cannot be used to advise others, and (c) there is no data recording or playback facility.

We would not use NCI radar plots for navigation purposes for those reasons.

We might take their information for our use, but we couldn't relay it elsewhere.
 
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