Missing yachtswoman in South west.

RNLI sar 51

jimi said:
the edge of the TSS is just under 3 miles off Longships, no need for a small craft to go near it when rounding Lands End even outside Longships.

What I find a bit strange is that wreckage was found at Sennen, cos by then most of the dangers on the inshore route have been passed and it just a case of heading north until its time to head east. My theory is that she went to shake out a reef in the falling wind once clear of main dangers and slipped overboard. The boat then ran itself aground.
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just off landsend 1hr 15 mins after she was reported to have set off from mous'll

http://www.aisliverpool.org.uk/historymap.php?map=Lundy&hh=21&mm=0&date=20121013
 
jimi said:
What I find a bit strange is that wreckage was found at Sennen, cos by then most of the dangers on the inshore route have been passed and it just a case of heading north until its time to head east. My theory is that she went to shake out a reef in the falling wind once clear of main dangers and slipped overboard. The boat then ran itself aground.
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According to the report at http://www.thisiscornwall.co.uk/Mis...-warned-sail/story-17100495-detail/story.html, part of a keel was washed ashore!
Wreckage washed up in Sennen, which included seats and parts of a keel, was positively identified as belonging to a Moody, the same type of boat as Seagair.
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I'd have thought, sadly, that keels tend to sink rather than float. Silly me:rolleyes:
 
jimi said:
My theory is that she went to shake out a reef in the falling wind once clear of main dangers and slipped overboard. The boat then ran itself aground.
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For what it is worth I think something along those lines seems the most likely explanation.

It was a strange boat so even simple things could be a bit more awkward. And she was, it seems, a bit rusty so could've made a simple mistake that meant taking a few risks to sort it out. I know for myself, for example, that when as a not-at-all-rusty racer I first started cruising again I kept forgetting about the topping lift.
 
Robert Wilson said:
I would have thought, and hoped (especially given the HUGE interest on this Forum) that the media would have kept a trail going.
Ah well.
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Why? If there is nothing new, there is nothing to report. As to this thread, there is not one single piece of first hand knowledge - only posting links to public news stories, some of which contain facts. (Except for one from somebody who knows the person, but did not include any facts about the incident).

Other than that everything else is pointless speculation. The "HUGE interest" is self-generated by actually a very small number of people.
 
A1Sailor said:
See also http://www.aisliverpool.org.uk/historymap.php?map=Penwith&hh=21&mm=0&date=20121013 Was Emma Louise Crabber in port?
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Emma Louise Crabber is the yellow, stationary vessel, just to the east of the "r" in Crabber. No sign of a lifeboat - the one in post 458 was stationery. Was it in port?
 
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jimi said:
the edge of the TSS is just under 3 miles off Longships, no need for a small craft to go near it when rounding Lands End even outside Longships.

What I find a bit strange is that wreckage was found at Sennen, cos by then most of the dangers on the inshore route have been passed and it just a case of heading north until its time to head east. My theory is that she went to shake out a reef in the falling wind once clear of main dangers and slipped overboard. The boat then ran itself aground.
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If I was looking for a "sailing" cause for the accident, I'd agree this one would be my most likely guess. But the reason (until now) I haven't hazarded any guesses of my own is because there is probably potential for any number of bizarre accidents that could have caused the tragedy, anything from slipping down the companionway steps and knocking herself out (been there, got the T shirt), to trapping yourself in the Head, to having a heart attack - there are just so many sensible and bizarre combinations of what might have happened that evening. All of them resulting in the boat sailing herself onto rocks. We'll probably never know what actually happened.

Cheers, Brian.
 
Tranona said:
But this is more than 5 days after the event, and you don't even know if it was called out to this incident, so not sure what it adds to the story.
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Historical ais from oct 13 21:00 however there does seem to be an anomaly with a1sailors page It would be very interesting to know exactly who made the original call and at what time .Her partner was quoted as not being concerned.during the early search so ?
 
fergie_mac66 said:
Historical ais from oct 13 21:00 however there does seem to be an anomaly with a1sailors page It would be very interesting to know exactly who made the original call and at what time .Her partner was quoted as not being concerned.during the early search so ?
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But only reported here by you today - that is the point I am making. Of course the action of the RNLI was known at the time, but not specifically reported in public, nor does it have any bearing on solving the mystery, just knowing it was at sea around the same time.
 
A1Sailor said:
Thanks Fergie,
Our images are both of 21.00BST on Saturday 13th October - but at different zoom levels. I struggle to see a lifeboat in the image above... Where did you find it?

Douglas
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may well be something to do with the zoom levels but more vessels close to landsend on the paqge i posted ?:confused:
 
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