Mirror offshore

I seem to recall that the problem was not so much the engine itself, as Dylan's inability and/or unwillingness to get to grips with the work it needed. He had a lot of practical help from people on this forum, as I remember it, to keep it going, but he reached a point where he didn't want to bother any more, or invest the money, to do the work he was advised was needed to properly sort it.
Yep, Dylan had an aversion to work that involved spending money. I remember the threads, but the killer was when he hit something with the prop and it pulled the stern tube out and screwed up the gearbox coupling.
 
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I remember considering a Mirror Offshore very briefly when making a list of boats for consideration. I pretty much listed every thing in the 18-20' range and crossed off ones I didn't like.

Mirror Offshore was removed for 2 reasons:
1) Looks
2) Build

I still remember reading a review where the reviewer was trapped in the small head after his friend tacked. The door was wedged tightly in place and wouldn't open until they went back on the other tack. It might have been a completely made up story but it did help remove it from the list. I bought a Hurley 20' in great condition with a 4 wheel braked trailer at a great price soon afterwards. It was very solid, I think George Hurley didn't change much when switching from wood. If he'd put in a 1/2" thick ply bulkhead in a locker then he'd put in a sold 1/2" thick GRP bulkhead. :D:D:D
 
The owner will never recover the money and effort he put in to refurbish this boat. there are two variations of Mirror Offshore, the later ones were slightly longer with taller rig. This one I think is the the earlier version, I had one of these for a while. The Mirror Offshore is a nice little motorsailer but because of the relatively small rig, and the underwater profile, it is not good in light winds. In terms of price, assuming that everything works well, I would not pay more than £800.
I remember considering a Mirror Offshore very briefly when making a list of boats for consideration. I pretty much listed every thing in the 18-20' range and crossed off ones I didn't like.

Mirror Offshore was removed for 2 reasons:
1) Looks
2) Build

I still remember reading a review where the reviewer was trapped in the small head after his friend tacked. The door was wedged tightly in place and wouldn't open until they went back on the other tack. It might have been a completely made up story but it did help remove it from the list. I bought a Hurley 20' in great condition with a 4 wheel braked trailer at a great price soon afterwards. It was very solid, I think George Hurley didn't change much when switching from wood. If he'd put in a 1/2" thick ply bulkhead in a locker then he'd put in a sold 1/2" thick GRP bulkhead. :D:D:D
 
After looking at the comments think I’ll give it a miss. Anyone know were I can get a leisure 20.

There aren't a lot of Leisure 20s about. They were never as numerous as the Leisure 17s, 22s, 23s, 27s, etc.

When looking for older boats like that, I don't think it is wise to restrict yourself to one model. There are lots of perfectly capable models. None is perfect, and very few are complete dogs and no use to anyone. The difficulty with older boats is finding one that is in sound, tidy condition.

I suggest you clearly identify the type of boating you want to do and hence the type of boat you need, the amount you're willing to spend, and any parameters such as maximum length, draft, etc., or minimum headroom, no. of berths, or whatever. Then look around your part of the country to see what is available, in apparently sound and tidy condition, that meets those requirements.

Good luck with your search.
 
But I bet in the 2 years the boat has been on the books, there have been conversations along the lines of... don't think we will get that price ..... but I have spent so much on it! Guess it is not costing any money sitting on its trailer so no pressing bills to prompt action.
Oh indeed. My Drascombe was acquired in a vaguely similar way though the yard who acted as intermediaries were not in that case to blame. They had advised the heirs that the boat was not going to go for half the new price, particularly after it had been sitting in a yard, with two feet of water and six inches of mulched leaves in it, for five years. Eventually they started showing signs of realism and, to everyone's astonishment, accepted my speculative and insultingly low bit. She was in a terrible state, but Honnor Marine knew what they were doing and it's amazing hwat two hours with a pressure washer can do ...
 
Oh indeed. My Drascombe was acquired in a vaguely similar way though the yard who acted as intermediaries were not in that case to blame. They had advised the heirs that the boat was not going to go for half the new price, particularly after it had been sitting in a yard, with two feet of water and six inches of mulched leaves in it, for five years. Eventually they started showing signs of realism and, to everyone's astonishment, accepted my speculative and insultingly low bit. She was in a terrible state, but Honnor Marine knew what they were doing and it's amazing hwat two hours with a pressure washer can do ...
Oddly enough, my brother in law mentioned that he had seen a boat in the corner of a garage. A few days later I went round and asked about it and it was a Hurley 20 and one of the boats left on my list. It was filthy and partly covered by a rotten tarp. in the bodywork section of the garage. I bought it at a really good price because the owners father had not sailed for years.

The layers of body filler had actually protected the boat and it looked like new after a clean up. It came on a braked 4 wheel trailer, had virtually unused sails, a 9.9hp (!!) electric start outboard, massive rigid transom tender and was only used in fresh water. The price was low because it looked terrible and the owner's son had no interest in boats. It was a great find and we sailed it on the East coast for several years in the Forth with cruises down to Newcastle and points in between.

I had spent time making a list but not whittling it down to one model. I was able to recognise the Hurley 20 and already knew her construction would be solid. Not particularly fast but ideal for sailing nearby and sitting on a drying mooring. Sometimes things just drop into your lap but a bit of homework never hurts.:D

Chance favours the prepared mind (or slightly prepared in my case).
 
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This Hunter 701 might be worth a look, on a trailer, new sails...
The Hunter 701 was not designed by David Thomas as stated in the advert, but was an Oliver Lee design based on the same design as his Achilles 24 and Anderson 22. As such it will be a well-performing, safe seaboat that will look after you in all conditions. About as far removed from the Mirror Offshore as you can imagine - a floating bathtub in comparison.. I have sailed my Achilles 24 for about 10 years before I had to relocate to the North of England for work. It is now nearly fully reconditioned after 10 years in the Shoreham mud while I was up North. I can't wait to get back to sea in her. She cruises serenely through seas that would see the likes of a Bav 37 on their beam-ends. Two fingers on the tiller. Nuff said.
 
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