Mid sized yacht with nice aft cabin

[PaulRainbow]

Paul just because you and others consider home made boats are crap and consider that buying a "professionally " Built boat are the only way to go is your choice.

I have never said any such thing.

Others do say throw it away and buy new or get a "provisional" ( paid person) in to fix anything that goes wrong does not mate My and coopec approach any less invalid.

I didn't say it was invalid

The wipes coopec make are in response to the swipes you and others make against him. I just let it go over my head as I have plenty of supporters here and else ware.

Nonsense, pure nonsense. Coopec is a troll and you always jump in to defend him. Coopec kicked off with his keel drivel in post#10, not in response to anything that anyone had said about him, just his usual trouble making rubbish.

You and Coopec cause more arguments on PBO than the rest of the forum put together. Give it a rest please.

 

[dunedin]

I also had an HR352 for many years, lovely boat - cosy, safe, capable. But they still fetch about double the price of the Moody 34, so may not be ideal for the OP.

If it is of interest, by coincidence there is a comprehensive Me and My Boat feature on the HR352 in the current (January 2021) issue of our hosts magazine Yachting Monthly.
Clearly a boat that is popular with its owners, though worth knowing that apparently the decks have been raised twice during production to try to improve headroom into the rear cabin. Also apparently had two mast heights, though even with the taller it’s performance was reported as “not spritely” (HR owners don’t leap, just quoting what I read).
They love the interior, and easy to see why - but manoeuvring in reverse seems closer to an older long keel than a modern yacht (one owner leaves helm amidships and uses bow thrusters to steer in reverse).

Nice boats, but as pvb says, may be outside the OP’s budget, as YM claims £45-85k

Alternatives listed were Contest 35S, Najad 340 and Westerly Corsair, though again may be over budget.

Good article and worth a read so perhaps buy a copy - Theo and the author need to earn their crust to keep doing these.

 

[pvb]

They love the interior, and easy to see why - but manoeuvring in reverse seems closer to an older long keel than a modern yacht (one owner leaves helm amidships and uses bow thrusters to steer in reverse).

Reversing is an art with the 352 - the secret is not to go too slowly, it will then respond very predictably. It also has good prop walk, which is handy when coming alongside a pontoon. I didn't have a bowthruster on mine, and didn't miss having one. In contrast, my current Bavaria does need a thruster, so I'm glad I specified one!

 

[V1701]

Or even a motor sailer with an aft cabin at the back of the wheelhouse?

 

[rogerthebodger]

You and Coopec cause more arguments on PBO than the rest of the forum put together. Give it a rest please.

The arguments are by you and others just because we don't agree to your view point. I take it we are not allowed in your book to disagree as it causes you to argue.

We just have a a different view and in out respective countries we have freedom of expression. I will always defend Coopec's or anyone else's freedom to express their view and it seems to me you take offence the that.

We both live in a free country and we even have freedom of expression in out supreme law.

 

[LadyInBed]

Beneteau Evasion 32 (pilothouse). Not the pretties boat around, but very practical

I would have quite liked one in the day, I thought that they were quite solidly built.

 

[PaulRainbow]

The arguments are by you and others just because we don't agree to your view point. I take it we are not allowed in your book to disagree as it causes you to argue.

We just have a a different view and in out respective countries we have freedom of expression. I will always defend Coopec's or anyone else's freedom to express their view and it seems to me you take offence the that.

We both live in a free country and we even have freedom of expression in out supreme law.

Coopec started things off in post #10, up until then, everyone was being helpful. You jumped in at post #15 to further fuel someone elses argument.

I'm sure you would start an argument in an empty room.

 

[rogerthebodger]

Coopec started things off in post #10, up until then, everyone was being helpful. You jumped in at post #15 to further fuel someone elses argument.

I'm sure you would start an argument in an empty room.

Whatever you say. !!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[ashtead]

Have been following this post with interest notwithstanding the ongoing squabbles created which seem to have to do with the OPs search. It seems the target is to find a £20k stern cabin vessel with a walthough aft cabin that’s not built with a hobbit like walkthrough, has plenty of on deck storage, handles well with a large and not exposed cockpit and presumably will be gentle on a new owner . Looks like most choices maybe of the Westerly or Moody brands unless one of these bene happen by but this does seem to be about it. My concern is any in budget Tardis will need lots of doing up but maybe the budget just doesn’t fit the standard needed and a nice twin aft cabin is actual a better choice for a family boat in long run .

 

[Tiderace]

Interesting thread (other than the childish squabbling!)

Having sold our boat earlier this year and whilst we will take a break from ownership for a bit I've been searching for our next one and in an ideal world have similar requirements to the OP. My ideal would be Moody 36/38, but don't want to commit that much money as I have other hobbies that also demand £ and I also don't want anything bigger really having already had that tshirt and well aware of the compromises/ issues.

Most of the boats mentioned have come up on my searches ( I hadn't seen the Dufour 39 though) and there is indeed some hard compromises to be made if I want to limit my spend, with my main priority being a comfortable double berth, being 6'1" this proves challenging in that size/ price range. No idea what we will do, but in the interim we will start chartering and trying out a variety of boats in that size range; maybe I'll just end up digging a bit deeper into the £, or go the complete opposite and just get a 32/33 footer and use it more as just a day boat/ weekend boat.

 

[dunedin]

Interesting thread (other than the childish squabbling!)

Having sold our boat earlier this year and whilst we will take a break from ownership for a bit I've been searching for our next one and in an ideal world have similar requirements to the OP. My ideal would be Moody 36/38, but don't want to commit that much money as I have other hobbies that also demand £ and I also don't want anything bigger really having already had that tshirt and well aware of the compromises/ issues.

Most of the boats mentioned have come up on my searches ( I hadn't seen the Dufour 39 though) and there is indeed some hard compromises to be made if I want to limit my spend, with my main priority being a comfortable double berth, being 6'1" this proves challenging in that size/ price range. No idea what we will do, but in the interim we will start chartering and trying out a variety of boats in that size range; maybe I'll just end up digging a bit deeper into the £, or go the complete opposite and just get a 32/33 footer and use it more as just a day boat/ weekend boat.

It definitely narrows your options if want a boat below 40 feet with a stern cabin and decent headroom in it.
But there are masses of great boats available with spacious bow owner cabins and stern cockpit, which does tend to work better for many/most people, as avoids the compromises of cockpit and cabin fighting for vertical space.

 

[Akestor]

What about Westerly Discus?
Used Westerly Discus 33 for sale (Sailing Boats) | TheYachtMarket

 

[KompetentKrew]

I very much liked the Nicholson 39 - the walkthrough galley is fantastic, and will inspire the galley of my schooner when win the lottery.

(is the shower also walkthrough on the Nic 39?)

I thought about mentioning this earlier, but thought the boat too large for what OP seeks. I see the thread is now several degrees of latitude off-topic.

 

[PaulRainbow]

What about Westerly Discus?
Used Westerly Discus 33 for sale (Sailing Boats) | TheYachtMarket

I own a Discus.

The Discus doesn't have a very big bed in the aft cabin, about a foot wider than a single at the head and a little narrower than a single at the foot, some good storage space in there though. Be OK for a slim couple

For forward berth is spacious enough, good sized double berth with the infill in or two big "singles" with it out.

It's a good solid boat, normally fitted with a bomb proof Mercedes OM636 engine. Despite some comments i've seen about them being heavy and needing a gale to move them, they do actually sail very well. Space below decks is Tardis like, with two good sofas and tons of storage.

In the OPs budget, so i'd say well worth a look.