Mid sized yacht with nice aft cabin

[pvb]

Contest did a 38 both sloop and ketch and the 40s which is 39ft is very nice.

Nice boats, but I suspect out of budget. It's a shame the OP didn't reveal his budget, as a lot of the suggestions might be too expensive. If he was looking at a Moody 34 originally, they sell for around £30K, so the suggestions of boats costing double that might not be in the running.

 

[Buck Turgidson]

Nice boats, but I suspect out of budget. It's a shame the OP didn't reveal his budget, as a lot of the suggestions might be too expensive. If he was looking at a Moody 34 originally, they sell for around £30K, so the suggestions of boats costing double that might not be in the running.

Yeah, with no budget I was just putting it out there. There isn't really much in the way of smaller aft cabin boats for obvious reasons. The contest is my current retirement boat ideal. By the time I retire they may have slipped into my price bracket

 

[shortjohnsilver]

We have a Beneteau 36 cc and as stated above, ticks a lot of boxes. At the end of the day it’s a 36 foot cc boat with the emphasis on accommodation, so yup there’s not so much deck storage. Plenty within though.
She sails well enough, not a racer, but an adequate cruiser aimed at short handed sailing and easily single handed. With the in mast furling, everything leads aft , with Genoa winches adjacent to the helm position and the main sheet behind the helm and also easily controlled.
She’s an airy boat in the warmer weather, with plenty of ports and hatches to the three main cabins. Sleeps four reasonably comfortably.
I keep her in commission through the winter and with the webasto operating no one gets cold when we’re out on those sharp winter days.
Had her out in pretty bad weather and had no problems whatsoever in F 8/9 always feeling safe and confident in her, sailing well in pretty challenging conditions. Yes, she can be tricky when it’s blowing in close quarters situations, but you quickly start to appreciate how she responds and react accordingly. We have the 40hp VP in ours and that coupled with a strong prop walk, keeps us out of trouble.
Have a look at one. Not everyone’s cup of tea, but suits my Mrs, so suits me!

 

[RupertW]

We have a Beneteau 36 cc and as stated above, ticks a lot of boxes. At the end of the day it’s a 36 foot cc boat with the emphasis on accommodation, so yup there’s not so much deck storage. Plenty within though.
She sails well enough, not a racer, but an adequate cruiser aimed at short handed sailing and easily single handed. With the in mast furling, everything leads aft , with Genoa winches adjacent to the helm position and the main sheet behind the helm and also easily controlled.
She’s an airy boat in the warmer weather, with plenty of ports and hatches to the three main cabins. Sleeps four reasonably comfortably.
I keep her in commission through the winter and with the webasto operating no one gets cold when we’re out on those sharp winter days.
Had her out in pretty bad weather and had no problems whatsoever in F 8/9 always feeling safe and confident in her, sailing well in pretty challenging conditions. Yes, she can be tricky when it’s blowing in close quarters situations, but you quickly start to appreciate how she responds and react accordingly. We have the 40hp VP in ours and that coupled with a strong prop walk, keeps us out of trouble.
Have a look at one. Not everyone’s cup of tea, but suits my Mrs, so suits me!

It was my dream boat for a while - had a look over a lovely one in Brighton marina about 20 years ago. Our ambitions changed after a Greek charter soon afterwards and for warm water sailing we decided a big aft cockpit with lots of dining space was the priority.

 

[shortjohnsilver]

It was my dream boat for a while - had a look over a lovely one in Brighton marina about 20 years ago. Our ambitions changed after a Greek charter soon afterwards and for warm water sailing we decided a big aft cockpit with lots of dining space was the priority.

Yes, quite so.
The cockpit is not large, but is deep safe and very dry with the windscreen option providing fantastic weather protection. But, you’re right for cockpit entertaining for any more than four, it can be a squeeze and an after cockpit boat would definitely be better in hotter climes.

 

[LadyInBed]

Yes, quite so.
The cockpit is not large, but is deep safe and very dry with the windscreen option providing fantastic weather protection. But, you’re right for cockpit entertaining for any more than four, it can be a squeeze and an after cockpit boat would definitely be better in hotter climes.

Yes, I find the same and I do envy you your windscreen. I have an irrational hate of pram hoods so I sail from inside the pilot house saloon when there is water in the air!
There are several center cockpit boats around the 30ft length but I think I'm right in saying that they all have aft cabin access via the cockpit and so tend to end up using the cabin as a storage area and accommodation for guests. You have to go upwards to beamy 33ft plus like yours and mine to get walk through aft cabins, the downside is a small cockpit, especially with space taken up by the wheel.

 

[andyc352]

Hi All,
Quick question for advice.

I’m looking to understand if there are any other boats similar to the moody 34 c/c with the nice aft cabin, under 40foot.

I’m struggling to find any but I’m sure there must be?

I’ve owned a Hallberg Rassy 352 for 12 years. I’m now into my 4th year of being a full time live-aboard. If you’re looking for something around that size I can’t recommend them highly enough.

 

[steve yates]

No I am not twisting your words I was asking a question.

Outside builds are weather dependent ven for steel boats where high humidity causes flash rusting after grit blasting. I built mine at 6000 ft above sea level when the RH in the winter is as low as 20%.

Coopec did show a picture of where his hull was built and from what I remember it was under cover and possible in the outback. May be coopec can confirm.

Coopec has shown some of his GRP mouldings and personally much better that I could do.

The quality always depends on the skill of the of the people doing the work but a skilled amitor can always repeat a job if they are not staifacited with the outcome. As I have done some times. While building most of the word work and electrical panels were built in my workshop at home so in mice warn (some times too warm) conditions. Also some of the work can and I did subcontract some work where I did not have time or the skills.

A professionally build boat have a time and cost constraint as I am sure when you purchased you boat you wanted delivery quickly (always he case) and no disrespect.

Home built boats an take longer also due to time and cost constraints but of a different time.

As the saying goes Titanic was built by professionals and the ark was built by amature.

Amature do what they do for pleasure not for money. I make things for pleasure and yes I could be criticized for not sailing as much as I could as I take pleasure from improving my boat and sailing is a way to relax and watch nature.

You do know the Ark was a complete fabrication and never built at all?

 

[pvb]

I’ve owned a Hallberg Rassy 352 for 12 years. I’m now into my 4th year of being a full time live-aboard. If you’re looking for something around that size I can’t recommend them highly enough.

I also had an HR352 for many years, lovely boat - cosy, safe, capable. But they still fetch about double the price of the Moody 34, so may not be ideal for the OP.

 

[rogerthebodger]

You do know the Ark was a complete fabrication and never built at all?

Depends on your belief systems . Yes its a story from the bible as a lot of the contents and has no proof and being a scientific person I do look for some proof rather than just blind faith.

 

[V1701]

Contest also did a 32CS with a "walkthrough" which occasionally come up for sale but I once had a look at another 32 footer with one, can't remember the name of it now but it was definitely far too small a hull for what they were trying to achieve. If you are looking at around £30k and it doesn't have to be a walkthrough to the aft cabin there are some lovely older designs that come up occasionally like HR Rasmus, Moody Halberdier...

 

[chrisrjcox]

Never been on one, but what about the Benetau 36cc

I really do like the look of the Benetau 36cc, just need to sell my house. I think in reality we are going to be looking at older boats, somewhere around £20k

 

[chrisrjcox]

The situation is to put Coopec on ignore then you will not have to listen to his record.

It seems that coopec has hit a nerve. If you are sure like pvb that you bolt keel will not fall off why keep arguing.

Agreed my posted question was not about keels falling off, can we keep on subject? I think based on responses my reality is setting in, my budget doesn’t stretch far enough for a reasonable aft cabin, therefore I think me and the wife would have the vberth, and the two kids maybe have two rear berths, so the question has shifted to £20k yachts with two rear cabins

 

[E39mad]

I think your budget will rule out many/most of the boats already mentioned unless they need an awful lot of work (and money) throwing at them.

Have a look at boats such as the following which may be within the budget and some already mentioned:

Maxi 95 (access to aft cabin through cockpit)
Moody 33 or 333 Angus Primrose design
Westerly Pentland

 

[PaulRainbow]

The keel won't fall off my yacht ?

Wouldn't matter if it did, lawn mowers don't need keels

 

[PaulRainbow]

Seems like PBO has turned into the "Roger and Coopec build your own boat and slag everyone elses boat off" forum.

Anytime anyone asks anything about this boat or that we get the inane, childish drivel about keels falling off. Shortly followed by boring drivel about how home made boats are the best thing since sliced bread.

Surely, it must be getting "enough is enough" time ?

 

[rotrax]

Every boat is a compromise.

We have a big, fat, poor sailing but very seaworthy and extremely comfortable Motorsailer.

We took as crew on our post purchase delivery a fellow club member who is regular crew on long distance deliveries of yachts. During the first two days aboard prepping for the 500NM trip he was quite scathing in his comments about the small rig, self tacking tiny jib and many other things outside his experience.

Four days later, rounding a bumpy Lands End in the pissing rain with greenies over the bow he decided he quite liked being in the huge pilothouse wearing tee shirt and shorts.

As Jay Leno replied to the question " What is your favourite Motorbike? "

He reflected a moment and said " The one I am riding when asked that question! "

Ergo, all Motorbikes, like Boats, are good.

Having a boat - any boat - is far better than not having one.

IMHO, of course...............................

 

[rogerthebodger]

Seems like PBO has turned into the "Roger and Coopec build your own boat and slag everyone else boat off" forum.

Anytime anyone asks anything about this boat or that we get the inane, childish drivel about keels falling off. Shortly followed by boring drivel about how home made boats are the best thing since sliced bread.

Surely, it must be getting "enough is enough" time ?

Paul just because you and others consider home made boats are crap and consider that buying a "professionally " Built boat are the only way to go is your choice.

Others do say throw it away and buy new or get a "provisional" ( paid person) in to fix anything that goes wrong does not mate My and coopec approach any less invalid.

The wipes coopec make are in response to the swipes you and others make against him. I just let it go over my head as I have plenty of supporters here and else ware.

As E39Mad posted with a budget or 20KGBP the op may not get a type/size of boat he wishes so either he buys a run down boat and refits it out (if he has the skills) or takes the approach that PBO originally made popular like Jack Halt and Barry Bucknall supported in build your own.

We should encourage all who wished to get afloat to do it in whatever way he thinks is suitable to him and not keep on knocking people who does it their way which is different to your way.

As far as keels falling off, there has been too many, even one is too many. Ye we can point to all the boats with the same type/same manufacturer that are fine, but that is no consolation to those boats owners whos keel has fallen off and to those left behind who lost loved ones in a boat that lost its keel.

As there were mainly "professionally" built boats some one in the design manufacture should have been held accountable.

In the case I know personally the manufacturer blamed grounding and or hitting a container, But they will to deflect the responsibility from them selves.

 

[fredrussell]

I really do like the look of the Benetau 36cc, just need to sell my house. I think in reality we are going to be looking at older boats, somewhere around £20k

You can have an aft cabin (older) JenBenBav for £20k but perhaps not a centre cockpit one, and probably at the 30ft or less sort of size.

 

[dje67]

As an alternative to an aft cabin, my previous boat was a Beneteau Evasion 32 (pilothouse). Not the pretties boat around, but very practical (as noted above) in poor weather. It also had a full-height centre cabin (heads to one side and double bunk on the other. Easily get one for less than £20k. They are a bit cramped in comparison to a 36 footer, but if full standing height in the main cabin is a priority then it may fit the bill.