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Does a simulator offer a better experience than making (or at least, flying) a model?

Isn't it by design, an entirely more accessible (and very convincing) but intrinsically different, fake?
 
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Does a simulator offer a better experience than making (or at least, flying) a model?

Isn't it by design, an entirely more accessible (and very convincing) but intrinsically different, fake?
Not sure about from a model perspective but I think MSFS becomes a thing in its own right, ie can end up being a hobby itself and could continue along side flying models or the real thing for that matter. I’ve heard that one gentlemen streamed videos of him using flight simulator and earned enough money to buy and fly his own private jet!
 

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Does a simulator offer a better experience than making (or at least, flying) a model?

Isn't it by design, an entirely more accessible (and very convincing) but intrinsically different, fake?
Different but satisfying. Crashes cost nothing!
Interestingly, with a bit of practise, and the reality level set fairly high, I could land a 737 without incident, but after just one can of beer, I couldn't do it without crashing.
I did my learning on MS Flight Simulator in the early 21st century, but then followed up with loads of experience in the mid-20th century on Combat Flight Simulator:)
 
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Now there's a thing, model railways, flight simulators, both of which are competing for my time at the mo. Well, I say flight simulator, but what I really meant was the one I had a go the other day at Andrewsfield near Stansted. A full cockpit of a 737 to professional standard which I flew from Stansted to Amsterdam. Brilliantly immersive experience but at £150/hour probably not a regular treat! (60th birthday present from Mrs H) Anyway, I can thoroughly recommend it. Pics below.
I have been using sailing down time to build a model railway in the garage, it is modular so it can be put out of the way when boat stuff or other jobs need doing in there - blurry pic below. I went for digital and sound . Why I went for a model railway having just retired from 40 years of building the real thing I do not know!

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Now there's a thing, model railways, flight simulators, both of which are competing for my time at the mo. Well, I say flight simulator, but what I really meant was the one I had a go the other day at Andrewsfield near Stansted. A full cockpit of a 737 to professional standard which I flew from Stansted to Amsterdam. Brilliantly immersive experience but at £150/hour probably not a regular treat! (60th birthday present from Mrs H) Anyway, I can thoroughly recommend it. Pics below.
I have been using sailing down time to build a model railway in the garage, it is modular so it can be put out of the way when boat stuff or other jobs need doing in there - blurry pic below. I went for digital and sound . Why I went for a model railway having just retired from 40 years of building the real thing I do not know!

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Finding a boat ata reasonable price cost of maintenance and marina mooring,traveling time and attendant expenditure now bloody Orcas ready to bite ……is it worth the struggle?
You have been faffing about trying to find reasons not to buy. So for you it is not worth you bothering. Find a different dream of something that you can achieve. Alternatively get of your rear end & buy a boat.

Speaking for myself, the money I spend on sailing is absolutely worth every penny. If were not, then I would not bother.
. But so is the money I spend crashing model planes at £350 per time . But I intend to enjoy life while I can. I spent too long working for it not to.
 

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Now there's a thing, model railways, flight simulators, both of which are competing for my time at the mo. Well, I say flight simulator, but what I really meant was the one I had a go the other day at Andrewsfield near Stansted. A full cockpit of a 737 to professional standard which I flew from Stansted to Amsterdam. Brilliantly immersive experience but at £150/hour probably not a regular treat! (60th birthday present from Mrs H) Anyway, I can thoroughly recommend it. Pics below.
I have been using sailing down time to build a model railway in the garage, it is modular so it can be put out of the way when boat stuff or other jobs need doing in there - blurry pic below. I went for digital and sound . Why I went for a model railway having just retired from 40 years of building the real thing I do not know!

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GWR 47XX with headlight codes for express Goods?
 

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Plenty of glorious footage there. ?

I'm slightly surprised that fans of steam ashore, aren't more conspicuous afloat too. A steam launch would be a lot more interesting than any diesel motorboat. Quite a lot more appealing than lots of modern sailing boats, too.

Considering that a lot of us tinker and maintain more than we actually go sailing, a steamboat would seem to be the ideal ownership experience - equally involving whether you leave your berth or not.
 

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I did seriously look at getting a steamer, But I needed a motorboat to stay on and to tow sailing boats.. Sadly a steamer to do that was way out of my price range if bought, and way out of my time allowance if I built it....
 

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I wonder if one could simply make a new steam engine and fit it aboard one's boat...or perhaps, a different boat bought particularly for the purpose...(I realise the word 'simply' may not belong in that sentence)...

...maybe one of those tough old GRP hulls that is indestructible, but dirt-cheap because its diesel needs replacing. Yes, I will want to know all about the first Centaur with a steam auxiliary.

Not suggesting it would be a piece of cake, but doubtless cheaper and easier nowadays to source the materials (and tools to make the parts) than ever before.

:unsure: Wouldn't need to fit a cabin heater, either.
 

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Steam kits and parts are available for launches, maybe up to 20ft but quite narrow.. If you want to power a somewhat wider motorboat you'd have to make to measure or use 2 or 3 of the smaller kits either way very expensive..
 
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