Max hull speed vs current

[Buck Turgidson]

Yeah, those are precisely the two characters I was talking about. Nothing cheap about it. If they'd spent the money they did spend (and where did two students get it) on a proper boat, they could have sailed to the arctic in a 45', not pumped out diesel fumes all the way.

Note the mirror-like water.

Do fathers really call their sons "Guylee" these days?

It's just an ad for their solar panel company.

 

[srm]

If they'd spent the money they did spend (and where did two students get it) on a proper boat, they could have sailed to the arctic in a 45', not pumped out diesel fumes all the way.

The thing about sailing and boat owning is that we are each free to make our own choices.

Those guys chose to motor all the way north, something I too find very strange, but it was their choice. I chose to sail to Arctic Norway in a 42 ft sloop, getting there on the third attempt (over five years) due to strong northerly winds cutting the previous two offshore passages short. It was supposed to be fun, not an endurance test.

Some people claim great feats by rowing across oceans when adding a simple square sail with a couple of poles and a bed sheet would get them across much faster, as most seem to choose the down wind route. That's their choice - perhaps strange but so be it.

There is no right or wrong answer, people are different.

Lots of people with sailing boats choose to pump out diesel fumes as soon as the wind is slightly inconvenient, or even when they have a fair wind. From experience stretches of the west coast of Norway can be devoid of wind during the summer for long periods of time. Inside the islands we generally only made progress under sail for a few hours in the afternoons with the sea breeze.

It may be wise not to try to dictate to others as you may loose your own freedoms of choice.

 

[jiris]

As usual - the expert technical members like to churn out the data !!

Nice to see another who reads the OP post for what it is ...

I followed with admiration how some people were able to make a rocket science from a simple question . I guess the shortest and most accurate answer would have been: The speed of the boat in the water is a relative. It doesn't make any difference if the boat or the water is moving.

 

[canvey]

Lots of people with sailing boats choose to pump out diesel fumes ...

It may be wise not to try to dictate to others as you may loose your own freedoms of choice.

It's starting to concern me, especially on inland waters and marginal environments like the Arctic. The fug filling up the rivers and canals in London is ridiculous. Victorian. We can't be blind to the effects of our indulgences any more. There's just too many people doing it ... and, rather than idolising those guys, I think at least the boating media should have been critical of what a vain idea it was?

Many would see a big orange blob in the middle of a fjord, screaming, me me, as an eyesore.

I would have liked to have read how much it cost them to motor the circumference of the North Sea. I'm guessing it would have been cheaper and less polluting to have shipped it either by land or sea. Certainly quicker.

We do, all, have some collective responsibility to each other and, increasingly, the environment. "Just because I can afford to", "spend daddy's money" or crowd-fund/get sponsored shouldn't alone be the only justification to do things.

From a sailing point of view, it was ill advised.

Having worked with architecture students, and lived in some very badly designed apartments, I'm prejudiced against them.

 

[srm]

I think at least the boating media should have been critical of what a vain idea it was?

I understand your environmental concerns. Perhaps campaigning for the Canal and River Trust to ban internal combustion engines from their waters would be a good starting point.

However, you can not expect the boating media to be "critical of what a vain idea it was". They exist to promote leisure and sport boat owning, surely the epitome of vain ideas. Beyond commercial uses, and a few transport uses for those lucky enough to own an otherwise inaccessible property, no one actually needs to own and run a boat.

 

[[163233]]

I understand your environmental concerns. Perhaps campaigning for the Canal and River Trust to ban internal combustion engines from their waters would be a good starting point.

I am always surprised how little solar you see on narrow boats, you'd have thought they would be excellent candidates for going fully electric.

 

[oldmanofthehills]

Yes. And I well remember doing just that under the severn bridge where the tide can run at 7kn. Under full sail at 5 kn I went backwards.

It runs at up to 9kt through the Shoots and Ive seen the lifeboat showing off by going the wrong way.

We got stopped out side Weston S M by Sandpoint, flat out 4.8kts looking at the beach bungalows for an hour due to too much north in our track. When tide turn we nearl rammed unlit Birkbeck Pier in the dark as we closed it at unprecedented 10kts over the ground

 

[canvey]

I understand your environmental concerns. Perhaps campaigning for the Canal and River Trust to ban internal combustion engines from their waters would be a good starting point.

Yes, they might go for it ... but as a way to sort out their problems with continuous non-cruisers in London.

I've been looking electric propulsion a lot - would love to be able to - but beyond the luxury world, it just goes not appear to be ready for the prime time yet.

Waiting for the Chinese to come steaming in and lower the prices, I suppose.

Tree cover on canals might be a problem so I wish they'd just accept boats are a necessary housing solution ... and run mains charging points (and sewage pipe hook ups) up and down it.