Master builder, Bucklers Hard, update

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Sandgrounder,

note I said ' £100 for two is outrageous for there,ie the Master Builders.

I am going by descriptions from people who have been there recently, I stopped going 20 years ago when a harbour bod jumped into my cockpit at 08:00, ignored the harbour dues receipt displayed as requested and tried to force open my main hatch ( I always suspected hoping he'd get an eyeful) .

I understand the harbour dues collectors are better now but most report the Master Builders as just as dire as I remember it but even more of a rip-off, apparently even the Beken prints have gone now and they were one of the few good things !

We were at a pub yesterday where we are not unknown to spend over £100 for the two of us, but we know it's worth it at Badgers' near Petworth, several others too like the Hollist at Lodsworth; as for the Master Builders, that's what they would have to pay me !

Most good restaurants in Central London (non-Tourist) will only cost you £25 per person.

A pub on the south coast should cost £15 max.
 

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I'm wondering whether the massive difference in experience is down to the several different eateries on the site appearing as one. From what I saw, each menu is prepared by different staff in a different kitchen and with different prices and different service, so although everyone has eaten at "The Master Builders" we're all talking about different restaurants effectively.

LustyD,

I hope I'm wise enough not to have tried the Master Builders hotel - as I mentioned before, if you fancy a giggle have a read of the reviews - but have tried the restaurant and pub, years ago but sadly still sounds the same; we went to the restaurant on my parents 40th, and if it hadn't been not wanting to spoil the occasion we'd have sent back the barely edible ' food '.

Montagu and whoever he pays ( probably a pittance which might explain things ) is and always has been taking the P, the best advert for a revolution I have yet to come across !
 

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Maybe I am none to fussy but I normally enjoy the master builders, well the bar never ventured into the restaurant. Then for me its a location thing, did not make it this spring but most years I pop in for a pint and meal. Weekdays are far better than weekends I have more of a sulk with the cost of berthing than the food, that's historical then I complain every where (I see it as a duty plus that way SWMBO normally pays to save the embarrassment :p).

I have always enjoy the Folly but its normally a mid week thing of a lunch time, its just the right sail and I have never had anything but the crew pot (and a pint).

Yarmouth I hop around from one visit to the next, but 4.50 a pint makes me cringe.

I have never got to the Jolly Sailer, its on my to do list.

Then I would rather eat mediocre food and a quite atmosphere than to be booking tables weeks in advance and it being busy as. I have family that do not see it this way and I hate those Sunday lunches, you can see more often the food should be good but its sold out rushed or there is some other mistake and apology. In the summer when its busy I tend not to stop for lunch and eat under sail.

One time we hove to on a starboard tack in Southampton water for lobster and champagne, then that was when I was rich before we got the bigger boat.
 

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It seems to me, when I started cruiser sailing as a penniless young -teenager we counted ourselves lucky to get a Vesta meal to cook onboard - and were always left dispappointed & hungry ! - then there was the 1990's-early 2000's when it was madness to cook the evening meal aboard, go ashore; now simple pub fayre like a cottage pie and a pint is a memory and every pub fancies itself as a potential Michelin restauarant, I get the feeling cooking onboard is going to make a comeback until ' customer feedback ' hits the pubs.
 

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It seems to me, when I started cruiser sailing as a penniless young -teenager we counted ourselves lucky to get a Vesta meal to cook onboard - and were always left dispappointed & hungry ! - then there was the 1990's-early 2000's when it was madness to cook the evening meal aboard, go ashore; now simple pub fayre like a cottage pie and a pint is a memory and every pub fancies itself as a potential Michelin restauarant, I get the feeling cooking onboard is going to make a comeback until ' customer feedback ' hits the pubs.

Been there etc.
But what are the costs of running an eatery nowdays? Taxes and wages with social charges are a big wedge. Very difficult to make a profit. Merchant banker friend often used to get funding requests from would be eatery clients. When he had redone their sums.. they were unlikely to make any profit and would be working long hours for the little return. The only plus was to make the place attractive to sell on to another dreamer.

Had a meal in Laperouse last week. Featured in the ST a couple of weeks ago. Great decor, food OK, but resting on their laurals. Wine, staggeringly expensive. Final bill in the stratosphere. Were there any French in there? No. Service sort of OK, not up to the expectation of a top class joint. We actually had a much better meal in a local place, for a fraction of the price, with better service. cerca €25 a head.
 

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Last week we had lunch out here in Spain

Salad and bread with excellent olive oil
Rice, red pepper and tuna salad starter
A fantastic thick grilled swordfish steak with homemade chips fried in olive oil and fresh mixed veg
A small chocolate mousse
2 small glasses of white wine and a beer

This was the menu del dia at a local restaurant in a Spain

The place was packed out but the service was excellent

The cost?

€18 For both of us plus an extra €1 as I had a second glass of wine

Just sayin like:encouragement:

May
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May,

the difference is that the Spanish & French know how to live ! The British are only at their best at fighting wars, and eating out is regarded a wierd exercise like Halloween or Guy Fawkes, asking to be financially gouged if at all possible...:rolleyes:
 

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I think the original challenge was £15 plus drinks. Still a challenge for three courses, but I guess not impossible.

Pete
No the discussion started with a bottle of Muscadet included in the £100 bill at the MB and then Seajet mentioned a bill for two for £100 in a pub, which I doubt would exclude drinks. Even without drinks though, I doubt whether you would get much in the way of 3 courses for £15 a head - off the menu in any reasonable pub you won't get much of a main for under a tenner or a starter and desert for much under a fiver each these days. Of course you could always quote deals at odd times or out of season in quieter pubs but they generally aren't available in busy pubs or peak times...
 

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If you want a good meal, go up to Monty's in Beaulieu. It's about a 45 minute walk along the river, a 10 minute taxi ride or, if the tide serves, a dinghy or water taxi ride. The food is excellent but you will be paying about £50 a head for three courses with wine.
 

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I like the Union in Cowes... Good value I remember and tasted good but definitely Pub Grub - but I like basic food.

Any Menu that includes Jus or Drizzles or even the odd Foam or two immediately puts me off... (ps - I can't stand MasterChef!!!!)

:)
 

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I'm wondering if I live in a parallel universe where £50 per head for steak and chips with a bit of supermarket plonk seems a tad ott.
The most enjoyable and value for money on a dark winters night was the newly opened Weatherspoons in Pwllheli!
It opened last winter, allegedly is taking more money than any in the UK. For sheer enjoyable people watching it is unsurpassed! Steak and chips for me, Chicken and chips for SWMBO. With a free pint for me with the steak and a bottle of Chilean red, £24! Now I can be a snob with the best and have eaten in some seriously expensive places BUT it was superb!
Stu
 

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Stu,

keep schtum ! People watching is one of the best free bits especially couples having rows, winding each other up to the bun-throwing level; next thing places like the Master Builders will bus in unemployed students & mime artists to perform by ones' table and ruin the effect...
 

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Whether it's ' Jus, drizzle, foam or air,' served ' at your table by a pretty young thing ' I'd be reaching for a Magnum, and I don't mean the ice cream ! :rolleyes:

Would Sir like a waffer thin mint ?!
 
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