Market expectations changing over time

[baart]

I am not worried about boat values. I just want the boat that suits my lifestyle.

Not disputing that, in your specific situation and with a lot of time available it might be an option as is the case with Sailing Florence. But neither your situation nor theirs is at all representative to the wider market. I still have some reservations though whether for what they are planning to do this is the best solution financially. Or for anyone really. Most people do worry about the value of thing they buy so it is a factor to consider.

 

[Tranona]

My original post was not about the merits or otherwise of different styles of boats or their suitability for particular types of usage or areas of operation but about the relative change in market values over the last 20 years or so in the UK. The Sadler 34 was used as a base because of the article I referred to which made direct comparisons with new AWBs of similar market value at the time - and was very dismissive both of the AWB and whether it would last or hold value. So really suggesting that the position taken in 2002 was hopelessly wrong.

You are right, the mix of boats is different where you are from where I live, and it may well be that boats like the Sadler change hands at higher prices where you are, although there are other factors that influence price variations in different local market areas. While private owners may not be so keen on buying AWBs, just about all the charter boats in Scotland are modern boats. Euroyachts was the original UK Jeanneau agent and were a driving force in getting the brand established.

Our club is about 2 miles from where the Sadler factory was and there used to be plenty in the club 500+ cruising/racing fleet. Now one 34, a couple of 32s and 29s plus about 6 25/6 and rows of Jeanneaus, Beneteaus, Bavarias, Hanses, Elans.

 

[Tranona]

I am not worried about boat values. I just want the boat that suits my lifestyle.

So why did you bother responding to s thread that was specifically about boat values?

 

[RunAgroundHard]

Looking around my marina on the west coast, and other marinas near by there are plenty of modern yacht styles, the majority by far. Older yachts are not represented in large numbers. I suspect if you can afford to buy a new or nearly new yacht, you will likely keep it in a marina. That’s just a guess, as I have not paid attention to boats on local moorings, to make a valid comparison i.e. are more older boats kept on swinging moorings.

 

[geem]

Not disputing that, in your specific situation and with a lot of time available it might be an option as is the case with Sailing Florence. But neither your situation nor theirs is at all representative to the wider market. I still have some reservations though whether for what they are planning to do this is the best solution financially. Or for anyone really. Most people do worry about the value of thing they buy so it is a factor to consider.

When you look at the cost of new cars these days and the considerable depreciation, boats don't look too bad.

So why did you bother responding to s thread that was specifically about boat values?

Fred drift

 

[doris]

When you look at the cost of new cars these days and the considerable depreciation, boats don't look too bad.
Fred drift

Actually the value of anything, but particularly boats, is not, IMHO, only quantified in £££££s.

There’s also the emotional and cultural value.

In its day, a new Sadler 34 was a very pretty and exciting boat both to own and to sail. Just compare it to the likes of Nic 35s etc, also great in their day. As the world moves on people’s expectations and desires develope and expand. An object that really got the pulse rate moving in the past can be dull as ditchwater today.

Unless it’s only to be used as a home/caravan, ownership of a boat needs to get the juices flowing. Looks, performance, adventure and dream potential are all part of how this winds up an individual. We’re all different, thankfully, and hence different ideas and boats but the true ‘value’ of a boat has to be expressed in other ways apart from just ££££s. The cash is simply the mechanism used to transfer my dream of last week to someone else dream for next week.

Some of us would love to jump into a Delorean and try the boats of 30/40years hence, others would rather a pristine and beautiful boat from the 60/70s. Different strokes for different folk.
I know where my boating viagra lies and I’m glad we’re all different.