Marine Traffic AIS

[anoccasionalyachtsman]

@Refueler So you think is is impossible to solve? Are you so sure in all that arrogance?
Do you want a solution to what you say is impossible explained in a paragraph?

Here is goes:
1) install marinetraffic app and login. You can put your mmsi although not even required but increases accuracy of course.
2) click options->associate account with mmsi: "please do a 15minute navigation and when finished press this button"
3) on the server side match the naviagtion tracked with the app with the tracking done via ais. Bingo, login paired with mmsi.

Satisfied? Do you need the code?

You must think beyond the obvious

And maybe stop miss-evaluating the others and being so arrogant.

I am waiting for your compliment s (yes there are a few challenges but this solution solves the big "problem").

These sites are using our information much beyond the scope we share it for.
All i am asking is an opt-out option.

One of us doesn't understand how it works.

Your DSC radio and and or AIS boxes won't work without an MMSI, so you get one and enter it into the boxes.

Any DSC or AIS message is broadcast with your MMSI in it.

Interested AIS receiving stations hear the message and MMSI. Receiving stations may be connected to a network that collects data and puts it on a web page. You can't stop them getting your details if you choose to transmit them. (Because the MMSI is an intrinsic part of the message you can't choose to send a message without). Your only choice is to turn the device to listen only.

What you'd like to do is stop websites putting your information out there. As did Barbara Streisand.

 

[Giblets]

On the subject of AIS, why do some people leave their AIS switched on and transmitting when the boat is safely tucked up in a marina?

 

[Refueler]

One of us doesn't understand how it works.

Your DSC radio and and or AIS boxes won't work without an MMSI, so you get one and enter it into the boxes.

Any DSC or AIS message is broadcast with your MMSI in it.

Interested AIS receiving stations hear the message and MMSI. Receiving stations may be connected to a network that collects data and puts it on a web page. You can't stop them getting your details if you choose to transmit them. (Because the MMSI is an intrinsic part of the message you can't choose to send a message without). Your only choice is to turn the device to listen only.

What you'd like to do is stop websites putting your information out there. As did Barbara Streisand.

Thank you ... I was starting to feel alone out there ....

He posts about Profile Registration where he's asked for MMSI .... and confuses it with general data acquisition of AIS sites ...

But one item ... you can actually have AIS without MMSI ... by entering a false number ..... but that is daft as it then removes one of the most valuable parts of the AIS system ... details of the vessel carried by IMU / Radio Licencing authority helping emergency services identify your vessel ...

 

[Refueler]

On the subject of AIS, why do some people leave their AIS switched on and transmitting when the boat is safely tucked up in a marina?

Laziness ? But of course ships leave theirs on ... but its one of the officers responsibility to change the data sent to moored alongside etc.

 

[wawando]

A few months ago any big online player, specially if with a phone os (the guys with the Don't be Evil moto...) collected all user data and where not obliged to give any information to the users. That has changed due to user awareness and scandals like Cambridge analytica and others.

This still hasn't happened with online platforms that collect and user AIS information. But i think it will. It must.

Receiving stations may be connected to a network that collects data and puts it on a web page.

This message that you post is the problem. They are grabbing user information that is designed to help navigation and building services on top of it without respecting user privacy. Just like Google & co did until a few months ago. Added to that they gather movement and notifications.

On top of that i bet they make (or will make) money selling information to ports, brands about navigation habits: it makes all the sense that a dock cleaning company or boat service wants to receive a message saying: "vessel Refueler just arrived to your port and moored at dock C32". Additionally, "they travelled for 15 days without going to shore". "By the way it is a powerboat and their avg speed decreased in the last day, you might ask if everything is ok. because they did not stop to fuel..."

To be sincere i don't care if they make money on this. In fact i think they should.

The point is not allowing a user to otp out of it. Nor have the MANDATORY mechanisms to show the information they gather and export it/delete if the user wants to.

Anyway, this is my opinion, i am not going to keep a "fight". I just care about information collection in general and how it is used and i am amazed about how thses websites are allowed to do what they want without giving a damn about the users...
Apparently some users don't see a problem with this. Lets see what happens in the next couple of years.

 

[Refueler]

No information collected via AIS is sold !! Why buy when its basically free !!

Unless you call paying for Pro registration buying information.

<On top of that i bet they make (or will make) money selling information to ports, brands about navigation habits: it makes all the sense that a dock cleaning company or boat service wants to receive a message saying: "vessel Refueler just arrived to your port and moored at dock C32". Additionally, "they travelled for 15 days without going to shore". "By the way it is a powerboat and their avg speed decreased in the last day, you might ask if everything is ok. because they did not stop to fuel...">

Assumes a level that does not exist ............ because for the simple fact Port / Company's / Other AIS receiving stations can get the info without buying it ... as to the extra you added in there .... if you really believe that crap ... I think you've 'crossed over' .... no hope for you !! Paranoia 101 !!

 

[wawando]

I think you've 'crossed over' .... no hope for you !! Paranoia 101 !!

Time will tell

 

[wawando]

Have you contacted Marine Traffic to ask for your details to be taken off their site? If you have what was their reply?

TS

Yes, the first answer was the standard "we are doing the same that others do", as expected.. Lets see the outcome.

Kindly note that, unfortunately we cannot withdraw the data of your vessel from MarineTraffic, since it is already transmitted through your open AIS transponder.
Marine Traffic has been thoroughly examined by the competent Personal Data Protection Authority and it has been decided that the information published on our website with concern to vessels, ports etc do not breach any right connected to personal data of any individuals.
Additionally, please also note that your vessel's signal gets published on the internet by more than fifteen more websites of the same nature as MarineTraffic.

 

[Refueler]

Hate to say .... 'Told you so' ..... as did many others here.

 

[Daydream believer]

When i go to Boulogne a certain photographer insists on taking & uploading pitures of my boat every visit I make. This irritates me & I havehad to email him & ask him to remove them.
A friends boat was photographed & it included a female crew whose presence may have been misinterpreted. Fortunately I managed to get it removed for him
I do feel that posting pictures without permission should not be allowed.
I do accept AIS positions being shown. My wife likes to know where i am & i find that useful if I forget to call.

 

[Refueler]

When i go to Boulogne a certain photographer insists on taking & uploading pitures of my boat every visit I make. This irritates me & I havehad to email him & ask him to remove them.
A friends boat was photographed & it included a female crew whose presence may have been misinterpreted. Fortunately I managed to get it removed for him
I do feel that posting pictures without permission should not be allowed.
I do accept AIS positions being shown. My wife likes to know where i am & i find that useful if I forget to call.

That is something that I also do not like ...

Stupid thing is though - - we have this debate with Drone Videos and Photography .... Privacy is not g'teed if you are within public area .. there is no law giving you Expectancy of Privacy.

But there are times I have and will insist 'morally' privacy should be maintained.

 

[Refueler]

@Refueler So you think is is impossible to solve? Are you so sure in all that arrogance?

Certainly not arrogance ... just fed up trying to explain to you .....

 

[[70521]]

On the subject of AIS, why do some people leave their AIS switched on and transmitting when the boat is safely tucked up in a marina?

To make sure it has not moved from whence you left it.

 

[[70521]]

Laziness ? But of course ships leave theirs on ... but its one of the officers responsibility to change the data sent to moored alongside etc.

We can't do that on a Class B transmitter.

 

[Refueler]

We can't do that on a Class B transmitter.

Never used a Class B ...... thanks for heads up.

 

[[70521]]

Never used a Class B ...... thanks for heads up.

Basically, its TX on, TX off

 

[Refueler]

Basically, its TX on, TX off

Gathered that ...

 

[Rappey]

My ais will broadcast/receive even without a number entered, just shows you on map but with no info !

 

[RichardS]

My ais will broadcast/receive even without a number entered, just shows you on map but with no info !

Out of interest, which AIS transceiver is that? The requirement that an AIS cannot transmit unless an MMSI has been entered is a licensing requirement so I'm surprised that any manufacturer has ignored it.

Richard

 

[Roberto]

Hi, Roberto. I hope all is well with you.

Cheers Frank,
daughters now teenagers, I have to wait a bit before leaving again for longish trips.
Regards to Mrs Singleton as well