tom52
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Anyone know anymore about this ?
BBC local news
BBC local news
Man loses leg in boating accident
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cliff
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He was with a group of up to seven people, when the accident - said to involve a power boat - happened.
[/ QUOTE ]Enough said! I only hope the authorities throw the book at whoever was driving the "power boat" then throws away the keys as they slam the cell door.
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sailroom <span style="color:red">The place to auction your previously loved boatie bits</span>
He was with a group of up to seven people, when the accident - said to involve a power boat - happened.
[/ QUOTE ]Enough said! I only hope the authorities throw the book at whoever was driving the "power boat" then throws away the keys as they slam the cell door.
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No need to bother with the investigation, then...
cliff
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Argghh, it doesn't actually delete the post, just replaces it with "post deleted". That way I can't make some smart alec comment asking about why you haven't cut your toenails recently...
graham
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I nearly hit someone with the prop last year. While manouvering alongside a well used pontoon providing access ashore at Dale.A young guy with a snorkel and mask suddenly surfaced alongside our cockpit.
No problem that time but could have been catastrophic.
Later on I spotted a tiny inflatable flag alpha no more than about 6 inches square on the OTHER SIDE of the pontoon.
No problem that time but could have been catastrophic.
Later on I spotted a tiny inflatable flag alpha no more than about 6 inches square on the OTHER SIDE of the pontoon.
Mike21
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Glad to see you don't let facts get in the way off your usual vitriol
You really should see someone about these feeling of inadequacy you have every time someone mentions powerboats /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif
You really should see someone about these feeling of inadequacy you have every time someone mentions powerboats /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif
bilbobaggins
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Divers are apparently taught that showing anything resembling a Code Flag Alpha - of whatever size and wherever mounted - magically confers invulnerability to peeps in the water up to half-a-mile around.
They have no concept of risk or hazard, and even less of an idea of mutual responsibility. It was probably sport divers that the Darwin Awards were invented for.....
Probably a fair example of The 'Gaia' Planet healing herself.....
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They have no concept of risk or hazard, and even less of an idea of mutual responsibility. It was probably sport divers that the Darwin Awards were invented for.....
Probably a fair example of The 'Gaia' Planet healing herself.....
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cliff
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I call it as I see it! There are too many "gung-ho" types in powerboats giving the rest a bad name. Which ever party the the official inquiry concludes was responsible should IMHO have the book thrown at them.
As for powerboats - been there, done that, got bored, decided sailing was more enjoyable, challenging and more interesting. (and the fuel costs are negligible!)
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As for powerboats - been there, done that, got bored, decided sailing was more enjoyable, challenging and more interesting. (and the fuel costs are negligible!)
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billmacfarlane
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He shouldn't be putting a diver's down flag near a public pontoon. What on earth does he think a public pontoon is for ?
VicS
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Cliff you really do not know any more of the facts about this than I do, unless of course you were the eyewitness who contacted the MCA.
Untill we see the MAIB report on this I suggest we observe the sentiments of the last line in the BBC news item namely: [ QUOTE ]
Our thoughts are with him and his family at this time."
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Perhaps also remember the state of shock that the power boat driver, who may not be the "guilty party", will be in. Likewise all the others present at the time.
Untill we see the MAIB report on this I suggest we observe the sentiments of the last line in the BBC news item namely: [ QUOTE ]
Our thoughts are with him and his family at this time."
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Perhaps also remember the state of shock that the power boat driver, who may not be the "guilty party", will be in. Likewise all the others present at the time.
graham
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Pointless trying to reason with a lynch mob.
Even a one man one. /forums/images/graemlins/mad.gif
Even a one man one. /forums/images/graemlins/mad.gif
VicS
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I would hate to dismiss Cliff as a lynch mob. He is one of the contributors to the forums who can normally be relied upon for sound advice. Just this once he seems to be emulating the character in his avatar, the proverbial bear with a sore head!
nicho
RIP
We saw the aftermath when the unfortunate guy was airlifted by helicopter from the Hythe visitors pontoon. Awful to watch close at hand, but the paramedics and helicopter crew did a sterling job as usual. The details are a bit sketchy, but there are various rumours doing the rounds. One is that he fell from a jet ski and was hit by the speedboat (a small Mariah), and another that he was trying to climb aboard the Mariah when his legs were caught by the prop. No one outside the authorities probably know the true story yet, but I really feel for the guy concerned, and all those involved with the accident. What a way to end a day on the water.
duncan
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"He was with a group of people and that accident somehow involved the use of a jet ski and a six-metre power boat. What he was doing is still unknown,"
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"He was involved in water sports in Hythe Marina."
All sounds far to confusing to even conclude that the actual party to blame was even there!
"He was with a group of people and that accident somehow involved the use of a jet ski and a six-metre power boat. What he was doing is still unknown,"
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"He was involved in water sports in Hythe Marina."
All sounds far to confusing to even conclude that the actual party to blame was even there!
pete
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Divers are apparently taught that showing anything resembling a Code Flag Alpha - of whatever size and wherever mounted - magically confers invulnerability to peeps in the water up to half-a-mile around.
They have no concept of risk or hazard, and even less of an idea of mutual responsibility. It was probably sport divers that the Darwin Awards were invented for.....
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I take it this means all sports divers ?
It amazes me how some people tar everyone with the same brush Raggies/Stinkies/Divers/Jet skiers/Cyclists/Motorists/ Get a life and take everyone as you find them.
Pete
Divers are apparently taught that showing anything resembling a Code Flag Alpha - of whatever size and wherever mounted - magically confers invulnerability to peeps in the water up to half-a-mile around.
They have no concept of risk or hazard, and even less of an idea of mutual responsibility. It was probably sport divers that the Darwin Awards were invented for.....
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I take it this means all sports divers ?
It amazes me how some people tar everyone with the same brush Raggies/Stinkies/Divers/Jet skiers/Cyclists/Motorists/ Get a life and take everyone as you find them.
Pete
Richard10002
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Divers are apparently taught that showing anything resembling a Code Flag Alpha - of whatever size and wherever mounted - magically confers invulnerability to peeps in the water up to half-a-mile around.
They have no concept of risk or hazard, and even less of an idea of mutual responsibility. It was probably sport divers that the Darwin Awards were invented for.....
Probably a fair example of The 'Gaia' Planet healing herself.....
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My experience is that divers are "taught" to be incredibly careful when surfacing and, certainly in areas where there is likely to be traffic, they should deploy an SMB whilst conducting the safety stop, (usually 3 minutes at 5 metres), and keep it inflated whilst they are on the surface waiting for a lift out, or whilst swimming to shore.
It ought then to be incumbent on traffic to keep an eye out for diver flags on other boats, and for thin inflated buoys on the surface.
i.e. mutual responsibility.
Having said that.... not all divers follow the "rules", and some have difficulty staying below when they are a bit buoyant at the end of a dive.
Divers are apparently taught that showing anything resembling a Code Flag Alpha - of whatever size and wherever mounted - magically confers invulnerability to peeps in the water up to half-a-mile around.
They have no concept of risk or hazard, and even less of an idea of mutual responsibility. It was probably sport divers that the Darwin Awards were invented for.....
Probably a fair example of The 'Gaia' Planet healing herself.....
/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
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My experience is that divers are "taught" to be incredibly careful when surfacing and, certainly in areas where there is likely to be traffic, they should deploy an SMB whilst conducting the safety stop, (usually 3 minutes at 5 metres), and keep it inflated whilst they are on the surface waiting for a lift out, or whilst swimming to shore.
It ought then to be incumbent on traffic to keep an eye out for diver flags on other boats, and for thin inflated buoys on the surface.
i.e. mutual responsibility.
Having said that.... not all divers follow the "rules", and some have difficulty staying below when they are a bit buoyant at the end of a dive.
PowerSlapper
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IMHO Cliff's second post says it all, "TROLL" If you cannot see when someone is "trolling" for responses then..... Well what can one say?
I am sure that the vast majority of forumites feel some degree of sympathy for the injured man, even Cliff if the truth be told, but fact is the man was injured and perhaps it was Cliff's intention to get peoples views on the incident by posting a "troll" post.
As said in some of the posts above we need to wait for the outcome of the MAIB report.
There is an interesting twist here on the BBC News. Seems the injured man was being picked up by the powerboat after falling off the jet-ski when his legs were dragged into the propeller of the power boat. This would imply the powerboat had the engine running and in gear at the time, surely this is not the way to pick up a MOB.
When I took my Diver Coxswain ticket (many moons ago) we were taught to kill the engine when recovering a body in the water, not just out of gear but completely stopped as even a prop turning slowly due to drag in the gearbox can cause injury or at least catch the victims clothing making it next to impossible to recover.
[troll mode]Is this a good case for the compulsory fitting of prop guards? I mean if people have lost their instinct for self preservation perhaps we need legislation to protect them from their own carelessness and the carelessness or others[/troll mode]
Over the years I have noticed a distinct lack of self preservation amongst the population. Kids walking out in front of traffic daring the drivers to hit them, idiots in boats, people speeding in built-up areas and motorways etc. Have people totally lost the ability to think for themselves and look after their own safety? or even the safety of others around them?
Oh dear this must be the longest post I have made so far and certainly one of the more serious. /forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif
Jules
I am sure that the vast majority of forumites feel some degree of sympathy for the injured man, even Cliff if the truth be told, but fact is the man was injured and perhaps it was Cliff's intention to get peoples views on the incident by posting a "troll" post.
As said in some of the posts above we need to wait for the outcome of the MAIB report.
There is an interesting twist here on the BBC News. Seems the injured man was being picked up by the powerboat after falling off the jet-ski when his legs were dragged into the propeller of the power boat. This would imply the powerboat had the engine running and in gear at the time, surely this is not the way to pick up a MOB.
When I took my Diver Coxswain ticket (many moons ago) we were taught to kill the engine when recovering a body in the water, not just out of gear but completely stopped as even a prop turning slowly due to drag in the gearbox can cause injury or at least catch the victims clothing making it next to impossible to recover.
[troll mode]Is this a good case for the compulsory fitting of prop guards? I mean if people have lost their instinct for self preservation perhaps we need legislation to protect them from their own carelessness and the carelessness or others[/troll mode]
Over the years I have noticed a distinct lack of self preservation amongst the population. Kids walking out in front of traffic daring the drivers to hit them, idiots in boats, people speeding in built-up areas and motorways etc. Have people totally lost the ability to think for themselves and look after their own safety? or even the safety of others around them?
Oh dear this must be the longest post I have made so far and certainly one of the more serious. /forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif
Jules
cliff
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OK, I confess - you saw right through my ploy. At least it got peoples attention and reactions which was what it was intended to do.
I do agree with you about people taking responsibility for their own "self preservation" - nice term.
On another subject, how are your cats these days - still purring / throbbing along?
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I do agree with you about people taking responsibility for their own "self preservation" - nice term.
On another subject, how are your cats these days - still purring / throbbing along?
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PowerSlapper
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Seems I can read you like a book? /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Don't ask about the cats, Tom is fine, could not be healthier but Sylvester is a little poorly these days, might need to get the vet in to put him down if he does not stop misbehaving and running amok but with vet's fees these days I might be cheaper to drown him myself!
Love, Jules
Don't ask about the cats, Tom is fine, could not be healthier but Sylvester is a little poorly these days, might need to get the vet in to put him down if he does not stop misbehaving and running amok but with vet's fees these days I might be cheaper to drown him myself!
Love, Jules
