Lynch mob justice?

[Giblets]

As has already been said you can be legislated up to the eyebrows but without the necessary enforcement to catch the miscreants it would be a total waste to time. There will always be someone who disregards the rules as can be witnessed on a daily basis on the roads.

 

[macd]

As has already been said you can be legislated up to the eyebrows but without the necessary enforcement to catch the miscreants it would be a total waste to time.

Perhaps they could divert the lobster-pot patrols we'll surely be getting after the petition to such a duties?

 

[Stemar]

spending hours a day every day on a marina well upstream of the 6kts speed limit - around a mile upstream ans surrounded by other marinas also, the law has zero effect on the behaviour of those who choose to flout it, despite harbourmaster and police patrols. Speedboats and jetskis piloted by those who dont care just do what they want. Any new law would need a lot of registration and enforcement the GOVT simply would have trouble finding the money/willstaff for anyway. Unless we end up with Capita speed cops on the river We are still considering water cannon!

That's the point. It isn't more laws that are needed, but more enforcement. It doesn't have to be constant, just blitz an area where there's a problem, but for God's sake don't let Crapita anywhere near boating - they'll end up ticketing anyone going less than the limit and the appeals website won't work!

OTOH, be careful what you wish for. ISTR someone complaining about speeding mobos in Chichester Harbour, so the HM started enforcement patrols. The first person to get done was the complainant for not having his motorsailing cone (might have been his anchor ball)

 

[Praxinoscope]

Unfortunately you will always have idiots who do stupid things in boats, legislate or ask any authority to police things better will just mean that those of us who try to act sensibly will end up being penalised or harassed while the idiots just carry on being idiots.

 

[Tranona]

The family said in the interview that one of the reasons this had taken so long to go to court was the lack of legislation that covers this sort of activity, as Tranona said they thought that the legislation brought in after the Marchioness tragedy should have been applied to private vessels.

Marchioness and its consequences often get quoted in this context despite the fact that there is almost nothing in either the incident nor the issues it raised that has any relevance to leisure boating, nor to commercial activities involving leisure type boats. The only thing that came out of it in the revised Railways and Shipping act was the drink aspect. Many will recall that the revised legislation for drinking in command included those in charge of any boat, both commercial and leisure despite there being nothing in the report or recommendations that mentioned this.

The law is still in place but has not been implemented through regulations because there is no evidence that drink is a systemic problem in leisure boating, the difficulties of defining where it might apply in terms of type of boat and type of usage and of course enforcement.

Personally I think they are wrong in believing that legislation would have either prevented the incident or made prosecution easier. building a case for gross negligence and manslaughter takes time because of the need to show all the factors that show duty of care and recklessness on which a charge depends.

 

[savageseadog]

Unfortunately you will always have idiots who do stupid things in boats, legislate or ask any authority to police things better will just mean that those of us who try to act sensibly will end up being penalised or harassed while the idiots just carry on being idiots.

Spot on

 

[solent clown]

Unfortunately you will always have idiots who do stupid things in boats, legislate or ask any authority to police things better will just mean that those of us who try to act sensibly will end up being penalised or harassed while the idiots just carry on being idiots.

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