Looking forward to Boot Dusseldorf this weekend
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ChromeDome
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I've been there a couple of times. Always start by deciding which halls not to see!
petem
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Just little warning for others planning to attend the show. Most of the big boat stands are 'closed' so there is a lot of registration required. The staff on the stands are friendly enough but if you're shy about these things then it might not be the show for you. Once you're on the stands though they're all happy to provide liquid refreshments.
Bouba
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The other thing (which is on all big boats) is the couch next to the master bed....I can see how it would make a nice cot for a young child...but I have never sat on a chair in my bedroom...so I would prefer more floor space (or possibly storage)...I think it’s another hotel feature that isn’t needed when you have an entire boat to live on
Bouba
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That is every boat show....the boats are guarded by beautiful women
ChromeDome
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Once, at Hanseboot, I was in company with young friend (28 years at the time).
I was there so see stuff, he was there to buy. In the £4-500.000 range.
Me dressed like an old fart not caring a lot, he dressed in stylish leisure clothing.
I was invited in and on everywhere, he was ignored.
Walking Reperbahn in the evening, I was the one ignored
I was there so see stuff, he was there to buy. In the £4-500.000 range.
Me dressed like an old fart not caring a lot, he dressed in stylish leisure clothing.
I was invited in and on everywhere, he was ignored.
Walking Reperbahn in the evening, I was the one ignored
Bouba
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You get sized up very quickly by the sales team....but are you a poor scruff or an eccentric wealthy person ?...very hard to get right...but in the end of the day, the sales team focus very quickly on the wifeOnce, at Hanseboot, I was in company with young friend (28 years at the time).
I was there so see stuff, he was there to buy. In the £4-500.000 range.
Me dressed like an old fart not caring a lot, he dressed in stylish leisure clothing.
I was invited in and on everywhere, he was ignored.
Walking Reperbahn in the evening, I was the one ignored
TonyR123
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exactly why on the v55 I had the sofa removed and replaced with storage in the master bedroom. not sat on a sofa in the bedroom ever.
Sticky Fingers
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Certainly true that many boats now feature fabric rather than leather, obviously don’t know if that’s universally true. For boats where custom choices are offered I would expect that leather remains available.
Bouba
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Something nice, like Tesla vegan leather would be good
Alicatt
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The Antares 7 was quite basic, build quality was quite good, the fit and finish was good and a lot better than some we had seen, the boat we looked at was not on the Beneteau stand, it was on a Suzuki outboard dealers stand.
There were a few things on it that I did not like too much and it was not really suitable for what we want to do, the portside forward seat cand be moved to sit forward facing or to the rear at the table, however to sit forward there is no bulkhead between the seat and the cuddy cabin, your feet are on the portside V berth, that was the one thing that made me say no, apart from it being not really suitable for the canal.
The Bootbau-Schubert 707 was overall excellent, there were a few issues in the head where it had not been fully fitted out, the one they had on the stand is not the one they had in the video I linked to in my previous post, it is the same 707 open but the one they had on the stand had a hard top.
We both liked this boat, however if we wanted a diesel inboard with outdrive then you lost the aft under cockpit double berth.
I guess we have to look at something a bit longer
henryf
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Likewise. It’s scary that you chat and converse so much over the years and even do business but never meet - until now
henryf
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I also spent time on the Magellano 60. I thought it had some really interesting design ideas. The cockpit seating, the large saloon window in the dining area - made me think of the Princess Y75 and general space was good. What let it down was the quality of the fit / finish and the choice of materials. I want to be enveloped in a world of luxury and I wasn’t. I’d spend the whole time being angry.
But I do think it brings something different to the party.
Similarly Bluegame also had some very different ideas which won’t work for everyone but for some they will be amazing.
But I do think it brings something different to the party.
Similarly Bluegame also had some very different ideas which won’t work for everyone but for some they will be amazing.
Sticky Fingers
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I’d assume the materials are a reflection of the owner’s choices and could be changed for (almost) anything. Fit/finish quality seemed patchy, some elements were superbly chunky, engine room was very tidy, I liked the understated helm station, and yet other areas seemed not worthy of the pricetag imho... But overall I was very taken with the layout of the boat, though.
Bouba
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sometimes pre production boats are rushed into a boat show and the fit isn’t finished
Sticky Fingers
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Don’t think that’s a new model to be honest.
jfm
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Likewise nice to catch up with lots of people - some seen as recently as last week and some not for 3 years. Show had a nice atmosphere and was far from crowded. Some thoughts on spec:
1. Leather/cloth is an owner option. Don’t read anything into what you see on one particular boat.
2. I love bedroom sofas and always specced it where possible. Used for hours of long tedious business calls. You usually can’t have flat floor because you’re below the chine so it would slope. Nearly everyone offers storage instead. So it’s a free choice. This is true of so many things and it’s almost sad to over hear people on show boats saying “ooh no I do t like this let’s not buy it” when the thing they are looking at is 100% owner choice.
I always find these comments about ignoring well dressed folks (or not), talking to woman not man, or whatever, pretty inaccurate. These comments seem to be extrapolations from a couple of particular experiences. Truth is you are in charge: make the right comments at first meeting, and you then command the meeting and the agenda. Never hesitate, never dance to their tune; if you do then that’s your own fault.
Many thanks to sunseeker, Fairline, cranchi, Sanlorenzo, Lumishore/yachtlite for drinks and hospitality. Especially Sanlorenzo for big squidgy sofas. I didn’t get time to see princess but I know their hospitality is great too.
It was nice to see lots of accessory stands. I bought a foil board from a Swedish company called Awake. I was able compare about 10 different brands side by side and I like Awake the best. I was very disappointed by what might be the market leader = flite board, and the offer/quote they emailed (very quickly) was pretty unattractive imho.
Also nice ti see so many Mediterranean marina stands. This makes summer berth reservations much easier.
Hope to see as many people as possible again in Cannes in September (my boat should be there- stop by for a drink
)
1. Leather/cloth is an owner option. Don’t read anything into what you see on one particular boat.
2. I love bedroom sofas and always specced it where possible. Used for hours of long tedious business calls. You usually can’t have flat floor because you’re below the chine so it would slope. Nearly everyone offers storage instead. So it’s a free choice. This is true of so many things and it’s almost sad to over hear people on show boats saying “ooh no I do t like this let’s not buy it” when the thing they are looking at is 100% owner choice.
I always find these comments about ignoring well dressed folks (or not), talking to woman not man, or whatever, pretty inaccurate. These comments seem to be extrapolations from a couple of particular experiences. Truth is you are in charge: make the right comments at first meeting, and you then command the meeting and the agenda. Never hesitate, never dance to their tune; if you do then that’s your own fault.
Many thanks to sunseeker, Fairline, cranchi, Sanlorenzo, Lumishore/yachtlite for drinks and hospitality. Especially Sanlorenzo for big squidgy sofas
. I didn’t get time to see princess but I know their hospitality is great too. It was nice to see lots of accessory stands. I bought a foil board from a Swedish company called Awake. I was able compare about 10 different brands side by side and I like Awake the best. I was very disappointed by what might be the market leader = flite board, and the offer/quote they emailed (very quickly) was pretty unattractive imho.
Also nice ti see so many Mediterranean marina stands. This makes summer berth reservations much easier.
Hope to see as many people as possible again in Cannes in September (my boat should be there- stop by for a drink
)
henryf
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We also got distracted by the electric surfboard stands. We first got interested at Southampton with a company called Jet Surf. The products seem to have really come on in recent years from clunky garage built things to really well designed leisure products. I’m assuming you went electric? One of the manufacturers was claiming 2.5 hour run time once you got over the initial energy draining constantly falling in phase.
I will have to admit our Solent base makes water sports a lot less desirable. Were we in Thailand I’d have one on the boat tomorrow.
Master your skills before using in a busy anchorage. You want to look good in front of an audience
I will have to admit our Solent base makes water sports a lot less desirable. Were we in Thailand I’d have one on the boat tomorrow.
Master your skills before using in a busy anchorage. You want to look good in front of an audience
Bouba
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Your boat will be on display at Cannes ?Likewise nice to catch up with lots of people - some seen as recently as last week and some not for 3 years. Show had a nice atmosphere and was far from crowded. Some thoughts on spec:
1. Leather/cloth is an owner option. Don’t read anything into what you see on one particular boat.
2. I love bedroom sofas and always specced it where possible. Used for hours of long tedious business calls. You usually can’t have flat floor because you’re below the chine so it would slope. Nearly everyone offers storage instead. So it’s a free choice. This is true of so many things and it’s almost sad to over hear people on show boats saying “ooh no I do t like this let’s not buy it” when the thing they are looking at is 100% owner choice.
I always find these comments about ignoring well dressed folks (or not), talking to woman not man, or whatever, pretty inaccurate. These comments seem to be extrapolations from a couple of particular experiences. Truth is you are in charge: make the right comments at first meeting, and you then command the meeting and the agenda. Never hesitate, never dance to their tune; if you do then that’s your own fault.
Many thanks to sunseeker, Fairline, cranchi, Sanlorenzo, Lumishore/yachtlite for drinks and hospitality. Especially Sanlorenzo for big squidgy sofas
It was nice to see lots of accessory stands. I bought a foil board from a Swedish company called Awake. I was able compare about 10 different brands side by side and I like Awake the best. I was very disappointed by what might be the market leader = flite board, and the offer/quote they emailed (very quickly) was pretty unattractive imho.
Also nice ti see so many Mediterranean marina stands. This makes summer berth reservations much easier.
Hope to see as many people as possible again in Cannes in September (my boat should be there- stop by for a drink
