London Boat Show, or Not

[ChattingLil]

Here you go, word for word from National Rail Enquiries.

09:00 London Paddington [PAD]
London Liverpool Street [LST]
09:55
09:55 London Liverpool Street [LST]

That can't be right! 55 minutes from Paddington to Liverpool Street? It's only 5 stops

TFL puts the journey from Paddington to Excel at under an hour (including the engineering works that are currently taking place).

http://journeyplanner.tfl.gov.uk/us...pSelection=on&command=nop&calculateDistance=1

 

[jimmy_the_builder]

That can't be right! 55 minutes from Paddington to Liverpool Street? It's only 5 stops

TFL puts the journey from Paddington to Excel at under an hour (including the engineering works that are currently taking place).

http://journeyplanner.tfl.gov.uk/us...pSelection=on&command=nop&calculateDistance=1

The national rail website is notoriously pessimistic about cross-London transfer times. Gets a bit annoying when you book a through-journey and it nails to you specific trains - and then you actually arrive in time for an earlier train but can't get on it.

Cheers
Jimmy

 

[EME]

Here you go :-

From: Paddington
To: Custom House
Restrictions:
Route Depart Arrive Duration Interchanges View
1 12:40 13:21 00:41 View
2 12:46 13:26 00:40 View
3 12:49 13:31 00:42 View
4 12:58 13:36 00:38 View

 

[peterb]

Travel Direct (which I find very good) gives 5 options for Paddington to Excel. They vary between 43 and 46 minutes.

 

[Croc]

Why would anyone go to National Rail Enquiries to get a route across London when the organisation that covers public transport in the London....the imaginatively named Transport for London does the job far better and provides proper information on the urban transport within the city?
My nine year old grandaughter describes such people who ignore the obvious as "Dim muppets". Is she wrong?

 

[jimmy_the_builder]

Why would anyone go to National Rail Enquiries to get a route across London when the organisation that covers public transport in the London....the imaginatively named Transport for London does the job far better and provides proper information on the urban transport within the city?
My nine year old grandaughter describes such people who ignore the obvious as "Dim muppets". Is she wrong?

Blimey, do you really need to be so rude? Personally, I think my use of the NR website to book a train trip from say Brighton to Manchester (which necessarily includes a bit of the tube) is entirely logical. I also think that ari's use of it for a journey that starts outside the capital is also quite reasonable, given that it is the site that is issuing the tickets for the whole journey.

Cheers
Jimmy

 

[ari]

Blimey, do you really need to be so rude? Personally, I think my use of the NR website to book a train trip from say Brighton to Manchester (which necessarily includes a bit of the tube) is entirely logical. I also think that ari's use of it for a journey that starts outside the capital is also quite reasonable, given that it is the site that is issuing the tickets for the whole journey.

Cheers
Jimmy

Precisely that, Jimmy, thank you.

I live miles away from London on the west side so book trains via National Rail Enquiries, who give me the times right through.

I'd have to be a "dim muppet" to try and book such a trip via Transport for London wouldn't I..?

 

[Croc]

Oh come on....booking or checking on a journey from Brighton to Manchester is an inter-city journey but you would not ask a national rail service how to get from one side of Brighton to the other. You would ask a local bus company. London is not a desert it is a compact urban area with a sophisticated transport system.
Are you saying if he had flown into Heathrow it would be reasonable to ask BA for an air route to get him to City Airport right by Excel? Its horses for courses...in a city you use city transport... even hicks from up here in rural Norfolk know that.
The nine year old has another personal description that seem relevant to the constant complainer "Whinge-bag"

 

[ari]

The nine year old has another personal description that seem relevant to the constant complainer "Whinge-bag"

Then perhaps you ought to suggest she's more respectful toward you..?

 

[Croc]

You are possibly right there.

 

[jfm]

Overcrowded, potholed roads festooned with 'safety' cameras that motorists pay £40bn a year for and the govt spends £5bn a year on. Overcrowded, overpriced, overheated trains trundling on an antiquated Victorian age rail network. Airports full to bursting where you get charged for everything from using a trolley to dropping a passenger off and the govt whacks you with APD for the privilege. Apart from that, travelling in the UK is just great. No I can't think why anyone should dislike it either

Yeah but most of that is in the mind Deleted User. As for paying for trolleys and drop-off parking, just let it flow like water off a duck's back and spend the time you might have spent being annoyed about it earning more money. Ditto APD. Don't let yourself be annoyed by the 40vs5bn maths becuase frankly (as you know) taxes aren't hypothecated anyway, so the complaint honestly has no legs. Rail isn't all victorian - Virgin Pendolino on West Coast mainline is wonderful gear (I know there is craap stuff too). As for the scameras, get a driver and read your paper/mag/iPad in the back seat

These dumbwit politicians are, to use your excellent terminology, financially illiterate and they succeed in billing you £££ for this and that, but you're the one with the Fret53 in Croatia not them so you're the winner

Err, sorry to be lecture-y but I'm just putting another way of looking it it all

 

[jfm]

I have absolutely no problem with travel. However there are only so many hours in a day, and I'm sure you can understand that if I have to spend three of them just getting across London then that makes a big difference to the time available (and therefore viability) for a day at the show.

I'll take your word for the actual tube times, and spend the extra 90 minutes you've just granted me wisely!

Point taken, and sorry if rushed-keyboardishly i came across as picking a fight with you, which I didn't intend. Anyway, I promise you that leg of the trip is 45minutes or so, as others have confirmed too. I'd be delighted to share a beer on one of the stands if we happen to be there same day. I'm expecting to be there both saturdays and maybe the preview friday though not sure about that. We should do another thread on "who's there on which day?" though, in the general spirit of beer-arrangements

 

[Richard Shead]

And Merry Christmas to all...I am off, see you in Jan!

Mike I know just the place for a magic mop, extendible ladder and toffee stand if you get bored of the boats...

 

[Deleted User YDKXO]

Err, sorry to be lecture-y but I'm just putting another way of looking it it all

You're particularly mellow today, jfm. Was lunch that good?

 

[jimmy_the_builder]

Oh come on....booking or checking on a journey from Brighton to Manchester is an inter-city journey but you would not ask a national rail service how to get from one side of Brighton to the other. You would ask a local bus company. London is not a desert it is a compact urban area with a sophisticated transport system.
Are you saying if he had flown into Heathrow it would be reasonable to ask BA for an air route to get him to City Airport right by Excel? Its horses for courses...in a city you use city transport... even hicks from up here in rural Norfolk know that.
The nine year old has another personal description that seem relevant to the constant complainer "Whinge-bag"

Let me try again, although I daresay you'll use this to come up with yet another pathetic insult: he's not asking NR to get him from one side of London to the other, he's asking it to get him from somewhere outside London, to a destination in London, using rail services of one sort or another. I still think this is a completely sensible approach, and the real issue is that NR dish out poor-quality info about travel times within London.

Cheers
Jimmy

 

[jimmy_the_builder]

You're particularly mellow today, jfm. Was lunch that good?

He's probably still in the restaurant

Cheers
Jimmy

 

[Croc]

We can probably agree that the NR advice is only good to arrival in the city and then TfL do rather better...as they should....and wish ARI a good day at the show ...if he comes..... and wish you all a happy Christmas and a New Year that brings enough prosperity to enable you all to enjoy our pastime.

 

[ari]

Point taken, and sorry if rushed-keyboardishly i came across as picking a fight with you, which I didn't intend. Anyway, I promise you that leg of the trip is 45minutes or so, as others have confirmed too. I'd be delighted to share a beer on one of the stands if we happen to be there same day. I'm expecting to be there both saturdays and maybe the preview friday though not sure about that. We should do another thread on "who's there on which day?" though, in the general spirit of beer-arrangements

It's going to be mid week for me, the weekends and the preview Friday always seem busiest. Although the way London Boat Show is going, I don't think it's quite the issue it once was.

But thank you for the invite, and no fight pickery inferred from your post at all, was just a tad ironic as I actually rather like travelling.

 

[ari]

We can probably agree that the NR advice is only good to arrival in the city and then TfL do rather better...as they should....and wish ARI a good day at the show ...if he comes..... and wish you all a happy Christmas and a New Year that brings enough prosperity to enable you all to enjoy our pastime.

Well said sir!

Happy Christmas and a prosperous new year to your good self too.

 

[ari]

Let me try again, although I daresay you'll use this to come up with yet another pathetic insult: he's not asking NR to get him from one side of London to the other, he's asking it to get him from somewhere outside London, to a destination in London, using rail services of one sort or another. I still think this is a completely sensible approach, and the real issue is that NR dish out poor-quality info about travel times within London.

Cheers
Jimmy

Indeed, and thanks again.

Nice to find that they've got it wrong in the right direction though (if you see what I mean), means I've got more time than I thought.

I shall start the stopwatch at Paddington this year and report back progress so we can inform future would be show goers with perfect accuracy should this topic crop up again.

Always assuming that there is another show of course...