NotBirdseye
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Herd Mentality and Hysteria keeps the disease from spreading so....
Lockdown sailing
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cherod
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well " so " some say , some say not,, when you make judgments from the ( accepted ) flawed statistics who really knows,, ?
Triassic
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The College of Policing produce documents that are intended for the guidance of police officers. One of the dangers of releasing such into the public domain is that they can be misinterpreted by those who may not have the background of the target audience. Your view is totally understandable.
dom
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I hadn't noticed that, but it makes absolute sense; the shutting down of a human body within seriously ill patients is for example often accompanied by pneumonia, which when contracted in hospitals is often referred to as 'hospital acquired pneumonia', but as I understand it, this is rarely cited as a sole cause of death.
The striking thing about Covid-19 is its ability to take people who are otherwise well. This may be due to undedected underlying illnesses, immune system deficiencies, viral load or a host of other factors. So much data analysis needs to be done, a task made all the more difficult by countries being conservative with the truth.
NotBirdseye
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When you have better evidence come back to me 'kay.
dom
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Now how many people would dearly love to hide behind that old fig leaf
; you're not trained/intelligent/agreeable (delete as appropriate) enough to interpret the data correctly!I mean cigarettes aren't bad for you and if you can't see that......
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cherod
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my pleasure ,,, i can only vouche for my own experience within this " crisis " .. out of some 50 people whom i have some contact with / knowledge of who have had / shown classic symptoms of CV only around 10 ( perhaps even less ) have been tested poss , that is a statistical discrepency of what % ? , your " official " statistics are not worth basing any argument on , they are there to fool the herd into compliance and to keep us all away from our boats ...
NotBirdseye
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I see so you have anecdotal evidence that we can't generalize to anything but those specific circumstances, much of that information is also secondary evidence rather than primary. Yet you say under such circumstances you are seeing an infection rate of around 20%.
Yet the primary evidence we get from hospitals across tens of thousands of patients, that are revised as more accurate figures come in and poured over by statisticians to ensure they are correct and showing a picture of what is happening on the ground within an acceptable margin of error (and they have confirmed they are underestimating purposely)... is not as good never mind better?
Interesting....
Yet the primary evidence we get from hospitals across tens of thousands of patients, that are revised as more accurate figures come in and poured over by statisticians to ensure they are correct and showing a picture of what is happening on the ground within an acceptable margin of error (and they have confirmed they are underestimating purposely)... is not as good never mind better?
Interesting....
cherod
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NotBirdseye
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No I didn't misread. Secondhand information is secondhand regardless of the source.
10 of 50 people is 20% and you aren't even sure that all of those people have been exposed to corona yet
cherod
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if someone that you know tells you something on the telephone it is secondhand information ??
NotBirdseye
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That comes under 'I have some contact with' clearly. (Assuming they are not telling you about someone else).
Are you sure they are telling you the truth? They might not want you to worry or may not know if they have it themselves.
Welcome to data gathering btw it's a ruddy minefield!
Are you sure they are telling you the truth? They might not want you to worry or may not know if they have it themselves.
Welcome to data gathering btw it's a ruddy minefield!
cherod
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i am certainly not going to discuss peoples confidential medical records just to prove a point on some stupid forum ,, you are talking shite ..
Triassic
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Indeed, but this isn't complicated data is it,? Suggesting an audience may have a different background isn't saying they are insufficiently intelligent or agreeable, it could just as easily be the opposite, it is saying they may be used to reading such guidance and a level of assumption around their interpretation might be expected. I spent a fair few years both reading and writing similar guidance so felt able to offer that view. People often have a habit or reading into things what they want to see so you need to be aware of that if you have a diverse audience.Now how many people would dearly love to hide behind that old fig leaf
I mean cigarettes aren't bad for you and if you can't see that......
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newtothis
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Everyone knows this is a conspiracy by the government and the 5G manufacturers soley to keep recreational sailors away from their boats. They've had it in for us for years and finally decided a global pandemic costing 160k and counting lives was the only way to restrict our God-given right to do something mildly diverting. This is how fascism started.
When this is all over, I expect a strongly worded letter from the RYA.
JumbleDuck
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They used to call pneumonia "the poor man's friend" because it eased so many potentially unpleasant deaths, My German aunt tells me that every one "old" (unspecified) there has been vaccinated again pneumococcal (bacterial) pneumonial since covid-19 came on the scene, though whether this is to avoid a side effect of cv or reduce load on the health system I don't know.
Yes, we won't know the full truth about this disease and outbreak for years, and even then I am sure that epidemiologists will still be arguing about it.
NotBirdseye
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No one asked for any medical records or any personal information. I asked whether you could be sure they were telling you the truth or whether you could be sure they had coronavirus or not. Clearly the answer is no and that's exactly what the hospitals are struggling with. My point here is, sure it's not the best data in the world and no one said it was. However it is the best we have and we have no reason to doubt the evidence we have.
duncan99210
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Just a point on pneumococcal Inoculations: these have been available since last autumn alongside the flu jab for those who qualify, so most folks over 65 should have had the one off shot.
dom
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Clearly time for an early afternoon cup of tea - I can recommend Darjeeling (no milk)
NotBirdseye
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No no no, can't do that. That's how they get microscopic RFID chips implanted into everyone....
Pretty sure newtothis was being sarcastic btw.
Pretty sure newtothis was being sarcastic btw.
