Liveaboard Isle of Wight

While I would not disagree with the advice given by 'Calor Gas' I think it is unlikely to be the company. They apparently joined at 8.43am on Friday 28/12/12. There are no contact details in the personal info section. Chances of some one at their head office being available and posting at this time is small. More likely another forumite who wants to express their feelings about how dangerous this is but not willing to put their name to it. So have made the link to Calor Gas' warning.
 
Seen 'them' making woodburners on YouTube from gas bottles...
looks easy & safe enough:)
I don't care what the calor man says....
 
gas cylinder woodburners..

Helped make one...you flush any gas out by filling with water through the top..before you cut into it with the grinder..........
 
jordanbasset said:
While I would not disagree with the advice given by 'Calor Gas' I think it is unlikely to be the company. They apparently joined at 8.43am on Friday 28/12/12. There are no contact details in the personal info section. Chances of some one at their head office being available and posting at this time is small. More likely another forumite who wants to express their feelings about how dangerous this is but not willing to put their name to it. So have made the link to Calor Gas' warning.
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I am pleased that you agree with the advice given in my previous post. Further to the comment above, I can assure Forum members that this is actually Calor Gas. We do work between Christmas and New Year - and even get into the office before 9am! ;)

wazza said:
Seen 'them' making woodburners on YouTube from gas bottles...
looks easy & safe enough:)
I don't care what the calor man says....
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With regard to the above, I can only reiterate that any conversion of an LPG cylinder is extremely dangerous and I would urge ALL Forum users to think of their own safety, and that of others, and not undertake any such conversion. I would suggest you look at the following weblinks which demonstrate the extreme danger, and severe consequences, of undertaking the conversion of not only LPG cylinders, but any vessel which has previously held flammable or explosive material. Serious injury and death have occurred as a result of such irresponsible actions.

http://www.hse.gov.uk/press/2012/rnn-se-3112.htm

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-oxfordshire-19035426

Furthermore, as previously stated, any tampering with Calor cylinders is actually unlawful and we have previously taken legal action against perpetrators.
 
Calor Gas said:
I am pleased that you agree with the advice given in my previous post. Further to the comment above, I can assure Forum members that this is actually Calor Gas. We do work between Christmas and New Year - and even get into the office before 9am! ;)



With regard to the above, I can only reiterate that any conversion of an LPG cylinder is extremely dangerous and I would urge ALL Forum users to think of their own safety, and that of others, and not undertake any such conversion. I would suggest you look at the following weblinks which demonstrate the extreme danger, and severe consequences, of undertaking the conversion of not only LPG cylinders, but any vessel which has previously held flammable or explosive material. Serious injury and death have occurred as a result of such irresponsible actions.

http://www.hse.gov.uk/press/2012/rnn-se-3112.htm

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-oxfordshire-19035426

Furthermore, as previously stated, any tampering with Calor cylinders is actually unlawful and we have previously taken legal action against perpetrators.
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YEH YEH YEH....Yet another corporate ******* dictating what we can and cant do....this is a forum for boaties....coming on here with your strong arm warnings will earn you no friends here....I just retired from 35yrs of listening to people like you trying to tell the rest of us what to do. :mad:

Do you seriously think we care about your warnings? - Why don't you just go run along to the HSE and tell them - because I for one will not be listening to anyone who can so seriously mis judge the tone of this forum. :mad:
Oh yes I cant spell and that didn't stop me getting a PhD and being Director of a £1Billon turnover company !!!!!!!!!
 
zambant said:
Y that didn't stop me getting a PhD and being Director of a £1Billon turnover company !!!!!!!!!
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All that seems to mean is that you demonstrate stupidity at a different level from others.

Are you seriously suggesting it is OK to steal somebody's private property and use it for a purpose for which it is not intended and has been demonstrated to be potentially dangerous?

If that is the case, then I dread to think what sort of decisions you might have made when you were a director of a "£1Billion turnover company". Hope you are long retired and no longer a danger to anybody except yourself.
 
Calor Gas said:
With reference to the below post made by mirrorimage on 25.12.12 regarding the conversion of a Calor cylinder into a woodburing stove - this is of great concern to Calor. Please be aware that the conversion of any Calor cylinder into wood burning stoves, BBQs and other such appliances is unlawful and extremely dangerous. Even a nominally empty cylinder will contain LPG product and represents a hazard to anyone involved in removing valves or cutting up the cylinder. Emptying or dismantling a Calor LPG cylinder is extremely dangerous, and can result in serious injury or even death. There are tightly controlled systems and environments for the purposes of emptying or dismantling LPG cylinders, regulated by the Health and Safety Executive.

Furthermore, Calor cylinders are, and remain at all times, the property of Calor Gas Limited – any unauthorised person emptying or dismantling a Calor LPG cylinder is both acting unlawfully and irresponsibly, and this may lead to legal action taken by Calor.

Calor's primary concern is the safe use of our products, and we recently issued a press notice, alerting the public to the dangers associated with the mis-use, and particularly conversion, of Calor cylinders. Please see www.calor.co.uk/about-calor/press-centre/safety-warning/ for further detail.
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Mr Gas, many thanks for your modern, H&S, helpful(ish) post. Maybe you could answer a query I have had for years? If I had not "found" my cylinders, I would have had to pay more for the first ones I bought than all of the subsequent cylinders. Surely that means I bought the gas and the cylinder, then just exchanged my cylinder for a full one?
Also why is the gas I should be buying so much more expensive than that at the side of some roads?
Allan
 
Now, now, let's all play nice...or I'll...I'll, emm..oh yeah, I'll cut up my gas bottle :D

Flatered somebody took the time to create a new username and chucked in a curve ball about health and safety...very funny.

Nice bit of banter, but someone PLEASE do me a favour, I am still looking for something that has headroom (ish), stove, sink, ok electrics (ish), watertight, nav instruments, vhf, say 3 or 4 berth and I don't mind a "bit" of elbow grease (i.e not interested in raising any wrecks off the seabed...in Africa, or the Solent :D). Something I can call home for a while whilst I get back on my feet from losing everything...literally.

Sounds good? Well, not really considering my pathetic budget is serverely down to £1k now, so beginning to lose hope.

Anyway, if you can help I will very very grateful and when sorted and onboard my home will repay all in beer and stories of being ambushed in Iraq, IED's and all that "pull up a sandbag and swing the lantern" stuff.

All the best, must dash...just need to finish my letter to the complaints department at Calorgas... "Dear Mr... ?" Has nob got a K in front of it...?
 
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zambant said:
Oh yes I cant spell and that didn't stop me getting a PhD and being Director of a £1Billon turnover company !!!!!!!!!
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It's not the spelling, it's the punctuation. I've never known a director of a large company, and I know quite a few, that would use quite so many exclamation marks so very casually. Were you shouty director of Volume-Not Ltd?
 
A tad unfair, perhaps? the guy has a statutary duty to prevent ( or at least state the bleedin obvious) on Darwin heaters
. Which can be fantastic conversions btw
Since I discovered that Calor can exchange small for large 'spares' on some of their cylinders, I am a happy bunny( or chef) cooking most affordably:)
 
SandyEyes,

a chum is living aboard his grp Kestrel 22 as I type this, he's about 6'4" too !

In a marina admittedly; he's still a novice sailor, bought the boat fron E-Bay for less than £2,000.

Not a dynamite sailing boat but adequate and very roomy, twin keel too which is handy.

I once lived on my Anderson 22 ( good interior but not in the floating caravan category ) for a couple of months mid-winter with my then fiancee and a chum - in a marina.

Condensation is indeed your worst enemy, stick on some polystyrene ceiling tiles.

If in a marina with power, electric blankets are a great, economical way to stay warm.

Origo make a spirit / meths heater, works well, about £130 - but it still needs a little ventilation.

Meths is expensive unless you buy it in bulk - an internet job.

A simple cockpit tent - a rectangle with eyelets around the edges - is invaluable, keeps the hatch dry when open a touch, use the cockpit as a porch.

Be careful if it's icy or in gales; at Emsworth marina last I heard years ago 3 separate liveaboards had died going off slippery pontoons at night.

If on a pontoon always know where the safety ladders are in case you go in; you have to move fast.

Keep a ladder on your stern for the same reason.

Alright it's in a marina but my chum - also going through divorce - is having the time of his life !

I wish you the very best of luck, hopefully you'll have a great time which you'll regard with fondness in years to come.
 
Hi Seajet,

Funnily enough I was looking at a Kestrel 22 for sale on the net and saw how much room there seemed to be... http://yachts.apolloduck.co.uk/advert.phtml?id=280739 Looks great, but over budget atm though.

Thanks for the tips, re: ice on pontoons, deck ladder, simple cockpit tent.

If your friend who is 6'4 can manage in a Kestrel 22, Im sure I could if one comes along at the right price :) The Anderson you stayed on in winter looks like a great boat too, I see they have crossed the pond without too much bother.

Polystyrene ceiling tiles, hadn't thought about that...excellent idea :D

Electric blanket sounds good and I was looking into the spirit burner you mention, seems to be another good option too.

If your friend is having a whale of a time after his divorce, then I must be making the right choice too! :D

Many thanks for your reply and all the best to you!

Sandy

Seajet said:
SandyEyes,

a chum is living aboard his grp Kestrel 22 as I type this, he's about 6'4" too !

In a marina admittedly; he's still a novice sailor, bought the boat fron E-Bay for less than £2,000.

Not a dynamite sailing boat but adequate and very roomy, twin keel too which is handy.

I once lived on my Anderson 22 ( good interior but not in the floating caravan category ) for a couple of months mid-winter with my then fiancee and a chum - in a marina.

Condensation is indeed your worst enemy, stick on some polystyrene ceiling tiles.

If in a marina with power, electric blankets are a great, economical way to stay warm.

Origo make a spirit / meths heater, works well, about £130 - but it still needs a little ventilation.

Meths is expensive unless you buy it in bulk - an internet job.

A simple cockpit tent - a rectangle with eyelets around the edges - is invaluable, keeps the hatch dry when open a touch, use the cockpit as a porch.

Be careful if it's icy or in gales; at Emsworth marina last I heard years ago 3 separate liveaboards had died going off slippery pontoons at night.

If on a pontoon always know where the safety ladders are in case you go in; you have to move fast.

Keep a ladder on your stern for the same reason.

Alright it's in a marina but my chum - also going through divorce - is having the time of his life !

I wish you the very best of luck, hopefully you'll have a great time which you'll regard with fondness in years to come.
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Calor Gas said:
...Furthermore, as previously stated, any tampering with Calor cylinders is actually unlawful and we have previously taken legal action against perpetrators.
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As well as great woodburners, they also make great party tricks..:D
gas-cylinder-funny-face.jpg
 
Drop into River Yar Boatyard riveryardboatyard.co.uk Nice down to earth honest folk yachtie owner-managers. Roger is the owner, his son Jamie is essentially the boss now. Clean professional operation. Ten minute walk to the Wighlink Yarmouth-Lymington ferry and excellent bus service £3 per day unlimited on the Island. You need a dehumidifier, it helps to heat as well as removes moisture. It costs to run but all the power used is essentially heat in the boat. Tom
 
I never found the polystyrene tiles in my boat a problem in mid winter, and they never absorbed any moisture, maybe Nathan was unlucky or bought incredibly cheap stuff.

One tip, the Folly Inn on the Medina has showers, or at least it did when I was last there a few years ago.
 
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