Leisure 27

[Cheeky Girl]

I have looked around and think that this the boat for me.
Has any one any good or bad comments about this boat or anything I should look out for.
Thanks for any help
Graham

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[Steve_Jones]

Graham,

I bought a L27 at the end of last year. As a total newbie my opinion may not be totally relavent to your situation, but my initial impressions have been very favourable. There is an excellent owners association (http://www.leisureowners.org.uk/new_site/start.html) and I have found them to be a particularly good source of advice. The L27 is roomy for her size, with good standing height and decent accomodation. She looks after us and is generally accepted as a well-mannered yacht. We had a comprehensive survey and perhaps some of the points raised in this may be of benefit to you as possible points to look out for, PM me if you would like more details.

Regards,

Steve

<hr width=100% size=1>"If everything seems under control, you're just not going fast enough."

 

[Steve_Jones]

Graham,

I bought a L27 at the end of last year. As a total newbie my opinion may not be totally relavent to your situation, but my initial impressions have been very favourable. There is an excellent owners association (http://www.leisureowners.org.uk/new_site/start.html) and I have found them to be a particularly good source of advice. The L27 is roomy for her size, with good standing height and decent accomodation. She looks after us and is generally accepted as a well-mannered yacht. We had a comprehensive survey and perhaps some of the points raised in this may be of benefit to you as possible points to look out for, PM me if you would like more details.

Regards,

Steve

<hr width=100% size=1>"If everything seems under control, you're just not going fast enough."

 

[Steve_Jones]

Graham,

I bought a L27 at the end of last year. As a total newbie my opinion may not be totally relavent to your situation, but my initial impressions have been very favourable. There is an excellent owners association (http://www.leisureowners.org.uk/new_site/start.html) and I have found them to be a particularly good source of advice. The L27 is roomy for her size, with good standing height and decent accomodation. She looks after us and is generally accepted as a well-mannered yacht. We had a comprehensive survey and perhaps some of the points raised in this may be of benefit to you as possible points to look out for, PM me if you would like more details.

Regards,

Steve

<hr width=100% size=1>"If everything seems under control, you're just not going fast enough."

 

[Steve_Jones]

Sorry to repeat myself, it was the discussion board server having a 'fit', not intentional I assure you!!

Steve

<hr width=100% size=1>"If everything seems under control, you're just not going fast enough."

 

[Goldie]

I've sailed one a few times, only as a guest not as an owner. Accommodation is, as you say, excellent for the length. The trade off is space in the cockpit - we found it very tight with 2 adults and 2 children. I would certainly recommend sailing one before considering a purchase, and not just in light airs.

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[Strathglass]

I have sailed and maintained two of them over a period of several years on Loch Ness.

They were rather tatty examples as they were part of a hire fleet and had to survive minimum maintainence costs and maximum abuse by 'virgin' sailors.

In spite of this they sailed well, very forgiving and reasonably stable. Not quite as steady as a Centeur but a bit faster.

The water tank was in the bow and when this tank was full the performance was not so good.

They coped well in the short chop of Loch Ness even with novices at the helm and could be sailed with either the main or the genoa on their own.
They would go to windward on just the genoa although it was wery easy to oversheet and stall the sail.

Apart from repairs to damage caused by their continuous misuse and age they never gave any serious problems.

Iain

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[Trevor_swfyc]

Are you talking about a true leisure 27 or a Mirage/leisure 27, I own the latter, have owned it for over 10 years. Infact while not the first in the club to buy one certainly one of the first and we now have six very happy owners.
One thing I was told was ensure you get at least the 18 HP engine and not the 9 HP option glad I did particularly when pushing against a strong tide and wind. Unless the boat has sails < 5 years old consider new ones will be required, also has the engine been maintained, when were injectors last checked, has the stern seal been replaced in the past 5 years also any excess play in the cutlass bearing........
With respect to sails I had my new roller reef radial genoa made by Jeckels and reduced its area from 272 sq ft to 240 sg ft. This gives a far better shape upwind and I can sail without any need to reef up to a wind speed of 16 - 20 mph. Clearly not an option if you intend to race it, but I would consider another boat if you were going to consider serious racing.

All the best.
Trevor


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[Michaelg]

Thanks for your useful comments re the Leisure 27/Mirage. As a newcomer to these boats, what is the difference between the 'True Leisure 27' and the Mirage/Leisure 27. What is the quickest way of spotting the difference?

Michael Gregory
michael-g@fsbdial.co.uk

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[Michaelg]

Steve, thanks for your useful comments re the Leisure 27. I am currently looking at a couple of 27's, one fin keel with wheel steering, shaft drive, and the other bilge keel, tiller and saildrive. Is there anything in your survey report which I should look out for?
Any comments on the various engines that are/have been fitted?

Thks Michael Gregory
michael0-g@fsbdial.co.uk

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[Trevor_swfyc]

Michael,

The older style leisure 27 was actually 27 ft long with the rudder under the boat, the liesure 27/ Mirage 27 is actually 25ft 5" with the rudder on the transom to make up the 27ft. Many other differences but the rudder position is the most obvious.

Trevor

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