Jaguar 25
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The leeward side of a boat is the side sheltered from the wind whereas the leeward shore is the shore that the wind blows onto. What is the logic of this?
Lee Shore???
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Wansworth
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Cos it’s the shore your lee side err hits!
bedouin
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Leeward = to the lee of = downwind.
The two examples are consistent
The two examples are consistent
Jaguar 25
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If there was a narrow peninsula or an island with the wind blowing across, the side that the wind blows onto would be the windward side and the sheltered side would be the leeward side!
rotrax
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I thought he played right back for Fulham..................................
VicS
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The windward shore would be a lee shore .............. simple!
but it sounds like a good case for a 1,2, both switch.
Spirit (of Glenans)
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True, but the term "lee shore" is used relative to the vessel concerned and the wind direction, in effect what Wansworth is saying in Post#2.
It's the shore in the lee of your boat, not the one in the lee of a body of land.
Jaguar 25
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Thanks, that's quite logical.
davidej
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A west wind comes from the west: a west current flows to the west.
Explain that
Explain that
RichardS
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Topcat47
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It doesn't need explaining. It's a convention universally adhered to. like tying a reef knot is right over left followed by left over right.
LittleSister
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It's the other way around in the Southern Hemisphere, though!
MonniotC
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"A west wind comes from the west: a west current flows to the west.
Explain that"
Nah... Not telling.
Explain that"
Nah... Not telling.
BelleSerene
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Only if your vessel were sitting on the peninsula. Which it may soon be, if you’re not sure which way is leeward!
But as you are, you’ll know that leeward can only mean leeward OF something. It makes no sense to say a shore is to leeward or to windward of itself. What’s the wind doing at the shore that’s to leeward of you - or to leeward of any other vessel for that matter? It’s blowing onto the shore, isn’t it.
And if instead you or the object of concern is the other side of your peninsula, where there’s an offshore breeze? Well the wind comes from, um, windward (where else could it ever come from?!) so that shore is a windward shore, isn’t it. It’s to windward of whatever the vessel in question is.
It ain’t just a convention, it’s the only sense that ‘windward’ and ‘leeward’ can make in the context of floaty things.
Porthandbuoy
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Only if you're on the peninsula!
Robert Wilson
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Topcat47
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The lee shore is that shoreline visible from the lee side of the boat. Boats tend to be floating and the wind drives over the boat from one side towards the other. The significance of the lee shore is in the necessity to beat to windward if you wish to put more distance between the shore and the boat (chentlemen don't do this). If the engine fails and the sails blow out, the wind will drive the boat ashore....simples!
ghostlymoron
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No. Lee Shaw plays for Chesterfield! https://youtu.be/xwo9W46hlJkQUOTE=rotrax;6580492]I thought he played right back for Fulham..................................[/QUOTE]
Jaguar 25
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So my confusion arises from the incorrect use of 'lee' in 'lee shore'. The shore that is on the lee side of a vessel should be called the 'leeward shore'.
lee
the sheltered side of something; the side away from the wind.
leeward
on or towards the side sheltered from the wind; downwind.
"the leeward side of the house"
Comments?
lee
the sheltered side of something; the side away from the wind.
leeward
on or towards the side sheltered from the wind; downwind.
"the leeward side of the house"
Comments?
johnalison
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You only say incorrect because you wish to restrict the usage of lee to your own definition. Chambers dictionary gives the definitions as either the sheltered side of something or the side to which the wind is blowing. That is good enough for me and every other sailor that I have ever met.
