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[Ellimac]

The "warden" sounds like someone I know, does his Christian name begin with Je.....?

Don't know! It's the landlords father.. bad vibes

 

[gordmac]

The "warden" sounds like someone I know, does his Christian name begin with Je.....?

Christian name?

 

[billskip]

Christian name?

Christian name

noun

1. a first name, especially one given at baptism.
   "she was not used to addressing adults by their Christian names"

 

[gordmac]

I suspect I was babtised, sort of thing my mother would inflict on me as a baby, certainly can't remember though! I suspect the term went out of use sometime last century, together with the religion.

 

[oldharry]

I suspect I was babtised, sort of thing my mother would inflict on me as a baby, certainly can't remember though! I suspect the term went out of use sometime last century, together with the religion.

2.38billion Christians worldwide, with over 31m in Uk. Hardly 'out of use' with each having a christian name.....

 

[Greemble]

2.38billion Christians worldwide, with over 31m in Uk. Hardly 'out of use' with each having a christian name.....

Is the 'warden' a Christian?
Was he baptised?

 

[gordmac]

There are a lot of words and phrases that were used, and even acceptable, several decades ago that are no longer acceptable, in my opinion "Christian name" is one of those. We have moved on from forcing everybody to be Christian. I believe they even allow ministers on boats these days!

 

[Bru]

Why turn this thread into a religious issue?

The resurrecting poster has a serious issue with significant implications and arguing over the use of common if dated terminology isn't helpful!

Sadly my advice by PM, as I half expected, probably wasn't what the poster wanted to hear

 

[Daydream believer]

- elsan point is out in the open, sidewalks cracking, door not secure,

Dunno what the problem is. When did you last hear of anyone nicking a bucket of s..t

 

[savageseadog]

Why turn this thread into a religious issue?

The resurrecting poster has a serious issue with significant implications and arguing over the use of common if dated terminology isn't helpful!

Sadly my advice by PM, as I half expected, probably wasn't what the poster wanted to hear

When I grew up, everyone had a "Christian name" even if it was Amir. As far as the current situation goes, to the best of my belief, forename and Christian name are interchangeable unless wokery has eroded our culture further than I thought. I'm not of any faith.

 

[Capt Popeye]

Might mention that any Official Forms that I have seen / filled in , for yonks have asked for 'first name' and second or family Name , not one has asked for Christiam Name

Back to the original question asked , just might observe that it seems as if some Authorities and some Landowners are keen to essert (legal or otherwise?) certain juristictions against anyone not complying with their Norm ; tis a rather sad thing to so do

 

[gordmac]

When I grew up, everyone had a "Christian name" even if it was Amir. As far as the current situation goes, to the best of my belief, forename and Christian name are interchangeable unless wokery has eroded our culture further than I thought. I'm not of any faith.

Would I be correct in thinking you are well past state pension age? A lot of things change over the years. As the capt says, the phrase has long gone from officialdom.
Bru is correct though, we have gone well away from the op.

 

[billskip]

Would I be correct in thinking you are well past state pension age? A lot of things change over the years. As the capt says, the phrase has long gone from officialdom.

Time to be rid of all the history teachers,diplomas,degree, and books then....

 

[gordmac]

Time to be rid of all the history teachers,diplomas,degree, and books then....

Not sure I follow what you mean? History is, by definition, the past. Are you saying we should return to the ways and attitudes of the past? The thing about history is we should learn from it not repeat it. Mind you, motor boats have been around for a very long time but a lot of people haven't seen the light!

 

[Capt Popeye]

Bit of Fred Drift ere ; was the term Christian name , for the first name , derived from the Christian Teachings when Peoples from traditionally Non Christian countries / Religions adapted to Christianity but it required them to Adopt a Christian First name but they could keep their Sir or second family name ; seems to be a lot of it about these days

 

[Bru]

Bit of Fred Drift ere ; was the term Christian name , for the first name , derived from the Christian Teachings when Peoples from traditionally Non Christian countries / Religions adapted to Christianity but it required them to Adopt a Christian First name but they could keep their Sir or second family name ; seems to be a lot of it about these days

Christian name is interchangeable with Baptismal name and analogous to "christening name"

It is, traditionally, the name given at the christening or baptism of the person, which is not, or was not, necessarily the name by which they had previously been known (if any) or by which they were subsequently known

In historically Christian countries, Christian name became and for most people remains interchangeable with given name and first name but, of course, in a modern multicultural society none of these descriptions hold true for everybody (in some cultures, the first name is a family name etc.)

It's hardly worth getting wound up about!

 

[oldharry]

Oh dear, I didnt intend such a thread drift: my comment was simply that a world religion that is followed in some form or another by nearly a third of the planets population , and with a similar proprotion in Uk in one form or another, is hardly 'out of use'! But religion always gets people worked up ....

 

[billskip]

Oh dear, I didnt intend such a thread drift: my comment was simply that a world religion that is followed in some form or another by nearly a third of the planets population , and with a similar proprotion in Uk in one form or another, is hardly 'out of use'! But religion always gets people worked up ....

It's a discussion...I dont think anyone is getting worked up over religion, If i was asked what is my Christian name I dont think anything in my mind would associate that with anything religious, it would simply be someone being bloody nosey......

 

[Poecheng]

Christian name is interchangeable with Baptismal name and analogous to "christening name"

It is, traditionally, the name given at the christening or baptism of the person, which is not, or was not, necessarily the name by which they had previously been known (if any) or by which they were subsequently known

In historically Christian countries, Christian name became and for most people remains interchangeable with given name and first name but, of course, in a modern multicultural society none of these descriptions hold true for everybody (in some cultures, the first name is a family name etc.)

It's hardly worth getting wound up about!

Very good, balanced and objective summary of the (actual) situation.
The challenge to that view in this thread incorrectly represents what they would like society to be as if it actually were that now.

 

[gordmac]

Christian name is interchangeable with Baptismal name and analogous to "christening name"

It is, traditionally, the name given at the christening or baptism of the person, which is not, or was not, necessarily the name by which they had previously been known (if any) or by which they were subsequently known

In historically Christian countries, Christian name became and for most people remains interchangeable with given name and first name but, of course, in a modern multicultural society none of these descriptions hold true for everybody (in some cultures, the first name is a family name etc.)

It's hardly worth getting wound up about!

Interesting. From what you say someone could decide to be baptized with a different name to the one they were given, would that have any legal standing for things like passports? The person would then have a different Christian name to given name and may continue to use the latter rather than the former if they liked. Complicated!