Sailfree
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So how many in Portugal or Spain or France are killed by guns??
Binge drinking and the deaths due to knife crime appear to me to be uniquely a UK problem
Knife ban
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So how many in Portugal or Spain or France are killed by guns??
Binge drinking and the deaths due to knife crime appear to me to be uniquely a UK problem
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as said in #83
I suspect Portugal & Spain don't have the same 'reporting' as given by the UK tabloids.
capnsensible
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Yes they do. But as a Brit you unlikely to read a local newspaper.in the same way that a Spaniard is unlikely to read the English local paper.
WindyWindyWindy
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Stabbing Deaths by Country 2024
Rate of stabbing deaths per 100K people in 2021
0.26 Spain
0.21 Portugal
0.08 UK
The UK is actually one of the lowest rates in the world according to that site.
oldmanofthehills
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Knife deaths in the UK primarily affect inner city gangs in or near poor neighbourhoods. So called Zombie Knives give Swagger credentials to the Scrotes. Hence they are banned.
No one is banning or preventing the sale of 12 inch blade chefs knives or cleaver, billhooks or axes and suchlike large heavy bladed implements and such are readily available in the appropriate shop- indeed most stabbings are actually relatively small bladed and police in Italy seem to frown on small blades for that reason. The Scrotes can still nick their mothers steak knives if murder really inclined but the legal restriction might help slightly
No one is banning or preventing the sale of 12 inch blade chefs knives or cleaver, billhooks or axes and suchlike large heavy bladed implements and such are readily available in the appropriate shop- indeed most stabbings are actually relatively small bladed and police in Italy seem to frown on small blades for that reason. The Scrotes can still nick their mothers steak knives if murder really inclined but the legal restriction might help slightly
Bouba
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The issue isn’t the carrying of ridiculously sized knives that upset the lawful majority…it’s the restriction on carrying something as useful as a multi tool that is upsetting
Poignard
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Why do you care?
You live in France and are not subject to English law, except when you visit the UK.
On those occasions when you do visit, why would you feel the need to carry a multi-tool on your person?
Perhaps you are Bicycle Repair Man or maybe you expect to encounter a horse with a stone in its hoof.
We need to be told!
dunedin
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But that law hasn't changed in the UK. And as you don't live in the UK it has no impact on you anyway. So why is it "upsetting" you in France?
Poignard
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That's the trouble with these expatriates: they can't let go.
RunAgroundHard
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I was knew a senior policeman in Starthclyde Police (now Police Scotland) quite well. He had retired and we spent a lot of time together on boats. His policing area was Glasgow. He always had stories to tell and stated that one of the most dangerous weapons that they picked up, or had been used in '70s / '80s gang fights was a screw driver.
The reasons for knife crime have little to do with knife availability and in my opinion, the same reasons for chibbing one another with knives today is no different than it was in the 70's or 80's in Glasgow (or even back in the 20's and 30's).
The reasons for knife crime have little to do with knife availability and in my opinion, the same reasons for chibbing one another with knives today is no different than it was in the 70's or 80's in Glasgow (or even back in the 20's and 30's).
Bouba
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The same law applies here in France
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I think he means the British tabloids that portray the knife crime as being caused by immigrants
Fr J Hackett
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Yes there is a law that pertains to the purchase, carrying and use of knives in France. However there is considerable difference, interpretation and latitude. The law and enforcement revolves heavily around the intended use often defined by the location ie going into a concert with a knife could result in prosecution, if it was detected it would be confiscated but carrying a knife in your pocket including something like a switch ( flick) knife would not arouse suspicion except if it were in a location where its use could be illegal and designed to inflict harm.
In France in every town and high street you will find shops legally displaying and selling a vast array of knives and a large number of the population will have a small pocket knife.
capnsensible
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You think the Spanish don't.....
dunedin
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It’s funny how “they” are always “immigrants” whereas we are always “ex-pats”? Same thing, different terminology.
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Bouba
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Have you ever heard the ex pat community call themselves the diaspora ?
Poignard
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They're eating our dogs.....
Fr J Hackett
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Woofing them down we are toldThey're eating our dogs.....
oldmanofthehills
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There is in reality no such restriction which is a well as a gardener and assistant builder I carry tools up and down streets by day and evening. And knife on lanyard while going to mooring or thence to pub
Lawful occasions is the phrase and magistrates get right pissed off with idiot coppers - i have seen it in court with police thought a motorcyclist driends shouldnt have tools in his pocket. Case dismissed - constable why did you etc etc
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Exactly. True ex-pats are what is called in law "posted workers" - those sent abroad to work and date sfrom days of Empire when people from the UK were sent to manage government or a company's affairs in a foreign country