JW's Upgrades for 2016 - Tender

[jfm]

Hang on! There are 2 FX movements -

First, the FX difference between the sterling cost of buying the dollars to pay Novurania's invoice 2 months ago, versus today's sterling value of the dollar invoice. THAT's the £400. That alas you have to pay - as MapisM said import duty is based on value at time of import, expressed in sterling at time of import not sterling 2 months ago. It's just bad luck that the dollar has risen 7-8% against GBP in the time since you paid the invoice

Second, there is the FX difference between last Thursday when it was placed on the quay, and today. That movement is a mere £20 approx., and not worth arguing.

Good luck on getting the thing anyway and we look forward to pictures when you've unwrapped it. Keep the thread going please!

 

[Hurricane]

Hang on! There are 2 FX movements -

First, the FX difference between the sterling cost of buying the dollars to pay Novurania's invoice 2 months ago, versus today's sterling value of the dollar invoice. THAT's the £400. That alas you have to pay - as MapisM said import duty is based on value at time of import, expressed in sterling at time of import not sterling 2 months ago. It's just bad luck that the dollar has risen 7-8% against GBP in the time since you paid the invoice

Second, there is the FX difference between last Thursday when it was placed on the quay, and today. That movement is a mere £20 approx., and not worth arguing.

Good luck on getting the thing anyway and we look forward to pictures when you've unwrapped it. Keep the thread going please!

Thanks for your comment
I probably confused things - tired last night after a long day.
I agree - the first FX was me paying for the dinghy in dollars.

The second one is the one that hurts.
I had a bill last week that was supposed to cover the duty and VAT.
That payment was in two parts - P&M's fee and the Duty/VAT.
I settled this bill expecting that to be the end of it.
When I asked P&M for original copies of the paperwork, they discovered that the customs "Import Entry Acceptance Advice" didn't match with the figure that I had paid.
The difference is nearly £400 - certainly worth a few meals out!!
They said that it was due to an increase in exchange rate from Jan to Feb but I'm beginning to think that there was/is a cockup.
I think I will ask for a copy of the original calculation of my last week's bill.
I've checked the dates - the customs "Import Entry Acceptance Advice" clearly states that the boat entered the UK on the 28th Jan - the day I paid the bill.

Sorry for my confusing post - it was mostly a rant.

 

[MrB]

Ok come on, we have waited long enough now ......let's see the pics with her kit off. :encouragement:

 

[rbcoomer]

Ok come on, we have waited long enough now ......let's see the pics with her kit off. :encouragement:

I was thinking the same yesterday... Hope the delay doesn't mean it's the wrong colour after all the waiting! :ambivalence:

 

[Hurricane]

Little bit of a delay on that front
More later.

That will get you thinking

 

[MapisM]

Sounds like your troubles didn't end with the currency loss...
If so, I'm sorry for that.
Considering all your efforts on this project, you surely deserve a great result.
Best wishes for eventually getting to that point! :encouragement:

 

[Hurricane]

Sounds like your troubles didn't end with the currency loss...
If so, I'm sorry for that.
Considering all your efforts on this project, you surely deserve a great result.
Best wishes for eventually getting to that point! :encouragement:

Its getting there but not only import costs are the problem.
There are some technical issues.
Nothing that can't be sorted with a little effort (and money).

I think this kind of thing is an "attitude of mind".
If you work at it, you get the results in the end.
I'm retired so I have plenty of time to do these kinds of things.
I imagine that folks who are working for a living would get really wound up if they had been buying a dinghy like this.

Buying our Princess from PMYS was much easier and this dinghy is a fraction of the price!!!

Anyway, I will report (with some pics) next week when I will know more to report.

 

[MrB]

Any updates? :ambivalence:

 

[Hurricane]

Soon
I can't get out to take any pics at the moment - weather is ugh

 

[rbcoomer]

Soon
I can't get out to take any pics at the moment - weather is ugh

Did you make the most of the 'pause' in the weather yesterday then?

We're all on 'tender' hooks!

 

[Hurricane]

Did you make the most of the 'pause' in the weather yesterday then?

We're all on 'tender' hooks!

Yes - but still no pics

We've rigged up a mechanism to lift the dinghy on and off its trailer.
This rig has already allowed me to check that the new chocks fit.
I've also bought a plastic dock to take out to Spain and we were able to see how it fits on there as well.
We only had the morning before it started to rain again.
I can't remember such a long period of wet.

On the plus side, the electronics is partially fitted and tested (the addition of a VHF radio and Garmin plotter)
I've set the plotter to feed the NMEA data to the Yamaha system as well as to the VHF.

There have been a few hick ups along the way that I will report on later.

The ferry to take it down to Spain is booked for the end of March so there should be time to have a few days "shake down" / testing in Torbay.
I'm hoping to have a day out - perhaps launch in Torquay and Fish and Chips in Brixham.
Maybe there will be some time to get together - if we can find a good weather opportunity.

 

[rbcoomer]

Sounds like the hiccups are surmountable then? Dry days are certainly sparse this winter... Will watch for dry day for shakedown run then - and bring camera!

 

[Hurricane]

Sounds like the hiccups are surmountable then? Dry days are certainly sparse this winter... Will watch for dry day for shakedown run then - and bring camera!

You will be very welcome.

 

[Hurricane]

OK - so here are some pics
Not very good quality - I was trying to beat the rain - again!!!

The following couple of pics show the modified console layout.
Just managed to squeeze the plotter in.
Chose Garmin - for a number of reasons - the smaller 45dv wouldn't have fitted (too tall)
I was always going to fit an echo sounder - the old Walker Bay has one and it is very useful.
But for a few quid more, I decided to fit a fish finder / GPS plotter.
The plotter also feeds GPS data to the DSC radio.
Did consider Raymarine's Dragonfly but it doesn't have NMEA data out and IMO looks horrible.
The bigger Raymarine kit would have been quite a bit more expensive as well.
I ended up with the (old stock - non CHIRP) Garmin EchoMAP55dv which is essentially an echo sounder with GPS plotter thrown in.
More on this device later as I have other plans for it.

Couple more pics showing the transom layout.
Note the auto trim tabs and the quick adjusters ( thanks to this forum, I think these adjusters will help with the recovery onto both my plastic dock and onto JW's flybridge)

And the transom mounted sounder transducer - can be folded up the transom if it were to get in the way.

I've also taken a few pics of the chocks

I've made each one in two parts - the chock bit and a supporting block - with a piece of stainless steel between them.
There are several reasons for this construction but mainly because about 100mm of each will need to cantilever over the aft GRP section of JW's flybridge.
And I don't know the exact size until I position everything.
It will be much easier to unscrew the sections and cut the lower block when I do know the sizes than to cut a finished chock.
This construction also allows for the forward part to be screwed/bolted down.

Finally, I've added an idea that JFM suggested.
The aft section of each chock has a temporary resting place where the dinghy can be steadied prior to lifting into position.
In reality, I think we will be lifting it all the way but it was simple to incorporate these temporary grooves when I was making the chocks.

 

[John100156]

Looks great Mike I'm sure she will give you lots of fun...!

 

[rbcoomer]

Looking good indeed :encouragement: Better spec'd tender than many boats! I like the smart tabs - good idea with a big motor and that size LOA. Are they a factory fit or 'Hurricane extras'?

P.S. You probably had limited options, but I put my VHF in a similar, low position, but found seeing the display is problematic...

 

[MapisM]

I've also taken a few pics of the chocks

I've made each one in two parts - the chock bit and a supporting block - with a piece of stainless steel between them.[/IMG]

Wow, do you mean that you actually made them yourself?
You should have told me that you're so good at shaping wood while you were in CF last summer.
I could have given you plenty of things to practice with, on my old tub... :encouragement:

That said, you might wish to check the structural integrity of your chocks, occasionally.
I'm saying this because I had mine made by a folk in the N Adriatic who forgot more about wood than I'll ever know.
And I was surprised to see that he made them out of several layers, glued and screwed together (see lower part of pic below).
When I asked him if a single piece wouldn't have been better, he explained me that single large teak bits are much more prone to cracking, over time.
Far from predicting (let alone wishing!) that yours will crack, but considering that my chocks were made almost 15 years ago and they are still perfect, I surely can't argue with what that guy told me...

 

[Hurricane]

Wow, do you mean that you actually made them yourself?
You should have told me that you're so good at shaping wood while you were in CF last summer.
I could have given you plenty of things to practice with, on my old tub... :encouragement:

Sorry - only partially made by me.
I downloaded a CAD drawing of the Novurania's hull which had profiles of thehull in two places (6 inches and 6 feet 6 inches from the transom).
I managed to output these profiles into Photoshop (I don't have any CAD software) and scale them to the correct size.
Then I printed lots of A3 pages and stuck them together.
I then traced the correct profile onto some plywood and cut them out.
I did all this whilst waiting for the Novurania to be delivered - believe me, there was plenty of time!!
When it did finally arrive, I tested the plywood profiles against the actual dinghy - they fit.
So I bought some blocks of teak from Robins http://www.robbins.co.uk/index.asp (they have a price list on their site)
I marked up the teak from the templates and took it all up to a local wood joinery - £30 later it was all nicely cut from his band saw.
We rounded the edges and corners etc and last week, I tested the chocks properly by lowering the Novurania onto them.

 

[Pinnacle]

Sorry - only partially made by me.
I downloaded a CAD drawing of the Novurania's hull which had profiles of thehull in two places (6 inches and 6 feet 6 inches from the transom).
I managed to output these profiles into Photoshop (I don't have any CAD software) and scale them to the correct size.
Then I printed lots of A3 pages and stuck them together.
I then traced the correct profile onto some plywood and cut them out.
I did all this whilst waiting for the Novurania to be delivered - believe me, there was plenty of time!!
When it did finally arrive, I tested the plywood profiles against the actual dinghy - they fit.
So I bought some blocks of teak from Robins http://www.robbins.co.uk/index.asp (they have a price list on their site)
I marked up the teak from the templates and took it all up to a local wood joinery - £30 later it was all nicely cut from his band saw.
We rounded the edges and corners etc and last week, I tested the chocks properly by lowering the Novurania onto them.

Not just a pretty face are you Mike!

 

[Hurricane]

Not just a pretty face are you Mike!

The teak wasn't cheap though - £460 but mainly because I decided to use 70mm thick wood.