tjc
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...that you had one year off work, 32 foot boat ready to go, enough cash to live frugally for a year. Where would you go?
Just imagine......
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I'd go to sleep for the first week.
BrianJ
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Where are we starting from ?
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Well, I'm in SW Florida, so that would be my starting point.....so I would head south down to Key West, spend a little time there and then I would head out to the Dry Tortugas to see old Fort Jefferson, and then I would head south to maybe Cuba then the Caymans, then head east over to the Bahamas and then I'd have to think about it...oh yes, on the way to the Bahamas...I would probably stop by the Dominican Republic for a week or two.....
At least thats what we plan to do in a few years....
At least thats what we plan to do in a few years....
Twister_Ken
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I\'d think I\'d be boring
Classic Atlantic circuit. leaving UK early summer, spending time on Spanish and Portuguese coasts, cross to the Azores/Canaries/Cape Verdes for a bit of exploring, set out for the Caribbbean in November, winter there, up the NA East coast in spring to get to Newfoundland, head back to UK in the summer, maybe via Iceland (might take 15 months, not 12, is that OK?).
Thinking about it, 12 months is definitely not long enough if you want to see anything apart from ocean.
Classic Atlantic circuit. leaving UK early summer, spending time on Spanish and Portuguese coasts, cross to the Azores/Canaries/Cape Verdes for a bit of exploring, set out for the Caribbbean in November, winter there, up the NA East coast in spring to get to Newfoundland, head back to UK in the summer, maybe via Iceland (might take 15 months, not 12, is that OK?).
Thinking about it, 12 months is definitely not long enough if you want to see anything apart from ocean.
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Funnily enough
that's a pretty accurate description of me just now. You even guessed the LOA right.
For me, it's off to the Baltic. Though I went there last year, I liked it so much I've decided to return again and do it more thoroughly. Especially Sweden and Finland, this time.
that's a pretty accurate description of me just now. You even guessed the LOA right.
For me, it's off to the Baltic. Though I went there last year, I liked it so much I've decided to return again and do it more thoroughly. Especially Sweden and Finland, this time.
tony_brighton
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Re: I\'d think I\'d be boring
Is 32' long enough for that? If you believe the ARC guys then at 46.6' average you would be in the minnow class.
Is 32' long enough for that? If you believe the ARC guys then at 46.6' average you would be in the minnow class.
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Starting from Malaysia (Kuala Lumpur) I would head back to Australia taking my time over the voyage.
First I would head north to Lankawi/Phuket and explore the wonderful coastline and islands of Thailand. If the political/pirate situation was OK I would head south down the West coast of Sumatra, cut thru between Java into the Java sea and have an extravaganza exploring the Indonesian Islands (Bali, lombok, Sulawesi, Molucas, Ambon, etc.) Then head to Cape York and work down the E coast of Oz back to Melbourne. Alternatively, back to Melbourne westabout.
However, could be longer than 12 months, and currently don't have a boat.
First I would head north to Lankawi/Phuket and explore the wonderful coastline and islands of Thailand. If the political/pirate situation was OK I would head south down the West coast of Sumatra, cut thru between Java into the Java sea and have an extravaganza exploring the Indonesian Islands (Bali, lombok, Sulawesi, Molucas, Ambon, etc.) Then head to Cape York and work down the E coast of Oz back to Melbourne. Alternatively, back to Melbourne westabout.
However, could be longer than 12 months, and currently don't have a boat.
chrisc
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Re:;funnily, Funnily enough
I have dcided on year of -but heading out of Baltic
kiel canal , amsterdam , down canals to MED.
and along itiy coast to ? greece turkey .....
I am afraid these Scandinavian winters are getting
too long for me.....
I have dcided on year of -but heading out of Baltic
kiel canal , amsterdam , down canals to MED.
and along itiy coast to ? greece turkey .....
I am afraid these Scandinavian winters are getting
too long for me.....
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Re:;funnily, Funnily enough
I see from your profile that you're in Sweden.
Well my idea is to lay up in the Baltic for a long winter, but first get several months of good solid sailing done in the summer. What're costs for (a) mooring and (b) laying up like in Sweden?
I see from your profile that you're in Sweden.
Well my idea is to lay up in the Baltic for a long winter, but first get several months of good solid sailing done in the summer. What're costs for (a) mooring and (b) laying up like in Sweden?
jeanette
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With the emphasis on visiting rather than travelling and preferring to walk before running - I would set off on a tour of Britain, incorporating the South and East Coast of Ireland before dropping through Biscay in the late Autumn.
There would be time enough on the way to decide whether to turn left or right at Gibraltar.
Jeanette
There would be time enough on the way to decide whether to turn left or right at Gibraltar.
Jeanette
Twister_Ken
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Re: I\'d think I\'d be boring
32 feet used to be plenty long enough, but the ARC guys have got to fit in watermakers, and microwaves, and two heads, and aft cabins, and davits, and mini-RIBs, and Inmarsats, and gensets, and twin steering wheels, and breadmakers and a jacuzzi and a spare pool table.
My wallet's not that stretchy.
32 feet used to be plenty long enough, but the ARC guys have got to fit in watermakers, and microwaves, and two heads, and aft cabins, and davits, and mini-RIBs, and Inmarsats, and gensets, and twin steering wheels, and breadmakers and a jacuzzi and a spare pool table.
My wallet's not that stretchy.
chrisc
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Re:;funnily, Funnily enough
Mooring in Baltic harbours is usualy about 100 krona about 7.5 pound from swedish
Sweden is cheap these days ,Denmark ,Norway a bit more (although if you are spending
pounds still pretty good )Wintering is pretty cheap at least by Uk standards ,- 34ft about 200
pounds including lift out and in ,high press wash ,if you fancy gothenburg area I can propobally
locate somewhere for you .Gothenburg is pretty convenient now -Ryan air from Stansted
are pretty cheap .,and I reckon my boat is just about walking distance from airport.
good centre for sailing too , ( but I'm still moving out in spring)
Mooring in Baltic harbours is usualy about 100 krona about 7.5 pound from swedish
Sweden is cheap these days ,Denmark ,Norway a bit more (although if you are spending
pounds still pretty good )Wintering is pretty cheap at least by Uk standards ,- 34ft about 200
pounds including lift out and in ,high press wash ,if you fancy gothenburg area I can propobally
locate somewhere for you .Gothenburg is pretty convenient now -Ryan air from Stansted
are pretty cheap .,and I reckon my boat is just about walking distance from airport.
good centre for sailing too , ( but I'm still moving out in spring)
AndrewB
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Re: I\'d think I\'d be boring
Yup, me for the boring life too. 12 months is just right for the circuit ... did it, loved it. 32ft is fine for 2 (with 3 maybe for the long passages) assuming the boat is not your permanent home. With a boat this size though I'd definitely prefer a high ballast ratio and long or medium long keel for comfort.
Yup, me for the boring life too. 12 months is just right for the circuit ... did it, loved it. 32ft is fine for 2 (with 3 maybe for the long passages) assuming the boat is not your permanent home. With a boat this size though I'd definitely prefer a high ballast ratio and long or medium long keel for comfort.
tjc
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Thanks for the ideas....food for thought. Just need the courage to hand my notice in!!
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Thanks very much. I'm not sure yet which end of the Baltic we'll look to winter, but any recommendation of a particular boatyard gratefully received.
Aside from the boatyard costs, I guess living costs are still high in Sweden?
Thanks very much. I'm not sure yet which end of the Baltic we'll look to winter, but any recommendation of a particular boatyard gratefully received.
Aside from the boatyard costs, I guess living costs are still high in Sweden?
chrisc
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Re:;funnily, Funnily enough
no I think living costs are pretty high in UK now. makes a
change after all this time . Sweden has ,over the last 4 years ,
had the economony deflated by 1.5 compared to UK.ie.,a pound
used to be worth 10 sek but is now worth 15 sek.prices haven't
gone up much but alchohol is still difficult to buy ,especially if you
are a visiting sailor -very few places to buy booze without going
into major towns ,easier to stock up on way past Denmark .there effectively is no
limits on importing into sweden for your own consumption. if you do buy wine or
beer in sweden (at 'system' a state run monopoly) it is not expensive. -hard spirits are.
If you have wine in a restaurant it may well double the price of the meal ,beer is about 3
pounds a pint (yes you can ask for a pint ) food is not so expensive but you wont find any
tesco,s.
I am going to UK tomorrow -I think that this will be an expensive weekend.
no I think living costs are pretty high in UK now. makes a
change after all this time . Sweden has ,over the last 4 years ,
had the economony deflated by 1.5 compared to UK.ie.,a pound
used to be worth 10 sek but is now worth 15 sek.prices haven't
gone up much but alchohol is still difficult to buy ,especially if you
are a visiting sailor -very few places to buy booze without going
into major towns ,easier to stock up on way past Denmark .there effectively is no
limits on importing into sweden for your own consumption. if you do buy wine or
beer in sweden (at 'system' a state run monopoly) it is not expensive. -hard spirits are.
If you have wine in a restaurant it may well double the price of the meal ,beer is about 3
pounds a pint (yes you can ask for a pint ) food is not so expensive but you wont find any
tesco,s.
I am going to UK tomorrow -I think that this will be an expensive weekend.
bedouin
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Re: 32\' is long enough for anything!
Don't be deceived by all this propaganda going around that a 38/39' BenJenBav is the only route to happiness - a good 32' boat can go anywhere.
I think the ARC is something of a special case - I'm sure you'll find the average size of boat doing an 'independent' transat will be less than that.
The Pardeys started out in a 24' before moving up to a 30'; Tania Aebi did a circumnavigation in a Contessa 26...
Don't be deceived by all this propaganda going around that a 38/39' BenJenBav is the only route to happiness - a good 32' boat can go anywhere.
I think the ARC is something of a special case - I'm sure you'll find the average size of boat doing an 'independent' transat will be less than that.
The Pardeys started out in a 24' before moving up to a 30'; Tania Aebi did a circumnavigation in a Contessa 26...
PeteMcK
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Safety & Stability Screening
Using a boat's hull and rig measurements together with displacement, the IRC race rating system generates a Safety and Stability Screening Numeral with every rating certificate issued. The so-called base value can be topped up by a few points by complying with equipment requirements (liferafts, etc) which would be mandatory for many races anyway. So, for example, a boat with a base value of 35 can have 7 points added by being kitted out with ocean racing safety gear. Example races the RORC rating office give for typical minimum SSSNs are Fastnet, 30; "1000 miles in all weather"!!, 40; Transatlantic, 50.
Some base values I've come across in various places: Moody 33 (38); Contessa 32 (39); Sigma 33 (29); Sigma 38 (38).
In the hope of starting a hare running, above information passed without comment.
Using a boat's hull and rig measurements together with displacement, the IRC race rating system generates a Safety and Stability Screening Numeral with every rating certificate issued. The so-called base value can be topped up by a few points by complying with equipment requirements (liferafts, etc) which would be mandatory for many races anyway. So, for example, a boat with a base value of 35 can have 7 points added by being kitted out with ocean racing safety gear. Example races the RORC rating office give for typical minimum SSSNs are Fastnet, 30; "1000 miles in all weather"!!, 40; Transatlantic, 50.
Some base values I've come across in various places: Moody 33 (38); Contessa 32 (39); Sigma 33 (29); Sigma 38 (38).
In the hope of starting a hare running, above information passed without comment.
