Jet Ski and boat collision - Calshot - afternoon Monday 7 May 2018 - 2:30pm ish

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There was a call to CG this afternoon from a vessel Moon something (Moonshine maybe), in collision with a jet ski which had been playing with her wake, c14:30 near Calshot.

We had problems with jet skis playing in our wake in the same area a few minutes earlier.

So, if you are the boat owner, or know them, and want some back up viz insurance etc, PM me.

I’m presuming Moon**** was a MoBo.
 
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How is a jet ski playing in your wake a problem?
Unless it hits you off course but I'm assuming nonof your 'problems' involve being it?

You are going forward, they are behind.

Do you also have 'problems' with other vessels crossing through your wake behind?
 
Whitelighter said:
How is a jet ski playing in your wake a problem?
Unless it hits you off course but I'm assuming nonof your 'problems' involve being it?

You are going forward, they are behind.

Do you also have 'problems' with other vessels crossing through your wake behind?
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In the central Solent, one particular jet skier comes to mind, fat bloke, bald head, all black wet suit. He comes far too close too fast. If I have an engine fail, hit something in the water or have to shut throttles in a hurry there is, in my opinion, not enough margin for the unexpected.

Fun is not a good reason to add unacceptable risk at sea. From my perspective he takes too much risk.

Let's not forget the berating Poole marine engineer Mike Wills got on here when he smashed a jet ski into a trimaran off Swanage.
 
burgundyben said:
In the central Solent, one particular jet skier comes to mind, fat bloke, bald head, all black wet suit. He comes far too close too fast. If I have an engine fail, hit something in the water or have to shut throttles in a hurry there is, in my opinion, not enough margin for the unexpected.

Fun is not a good reason to add unacceptable risk at sea. From my perspective he takes too much risk.

Let's not forget the berating Poole marine engineer Mike Wills got on here when he smashed a jet ski into a trimaran off Swanage.
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Ohh he’s kept that quiet
 
Danfarry said:
I thinks it's great when jet-skis do this, I lift my tabs to give them a steeper wake.
There's risk is everything fun unfortunately.
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Ditto, I dont mind them in my wake and it gives the kids a lift to see them playing about. The courtesy does not extend to when they invade a peaceful anchorage though or blast through the harbour. Live and let live otherwise.
 
Whitelighter said:
How is a jet ski playing in your wake a problem?
Unless it hits you off course but I'm assuming nonof your 'problems' involve being it?

You are going forward, they are behind.

Do you also have 'problems' with other vessels crossing through your wake behind?
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Of course not.

Crossing my wake in accordance with Col Regs. Fine.

Criss crossing my wake for the sake of it. Annoying.

Circling my vessel at close quarters, with little regard for col regs. Annoying and dangerous.

Res ipsa loquitur - viz a vessel in our vicinity was in collision with a jet skier, as was the Red Jet mentioned above.

And I'm not an anti jet skier, I've hired one myself abroad.

Anyway, my own views are not relevant, its a shout out for the other boat owner and what one presumes will be an insurance claim.
 
All I can say is your Admiral takes better video than mine. It was a wonderful day out. Couldn't be more glorious.
Your boat just looks the part too :encouragement:

 
I've just noticed all the seagull turds on my canvas :disgust: I wish I could just shoot the blimmin things :mad-new:
 
Danfarry said:
If I raise them, the bow lifts, stern sinks and I create a nice big wake. If I lower them the stern lifts, I go faster and my wake flattens.
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Unusual. Normally a boat runs most efficiently with them up (as clearly the hull is designed to run at its best with as little intrusion into the water flow as possible).

Normally you'd lower them to push the bow into the water, typically into a head sea to cleave the waves with the 'sharper' forward sections of the hull, at the expense of more drag (because you've more hull forced into the water and two big metal plates pushing hard into the water at the stern) and thus more wash and less efficiency (less speed/increased fuel consumption) as the trade off for a better head sea ride.
 
ari said:
Unusual. Normally a boat runs most efficiently with them up (as clearly the hull is designed to run at its best with as little intrusion into the water flow as possible).

Normally you'd lower them to push the bow into the water, typically into a head sea to cleave the waves with the 'sharper' forward sections of the hull, at the expense of more drag (because you've more hull forced into the water and two big metal plates pushing hard into the water at the stern) and thus more wash and less efficiency (less speed/increased fuel consumption) as the trade off for a better head sea ride.
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Makes perfect sense but I'll confess mine rides best with them half deployed down both in speed for a given rev and just simply bow rise. Too much down and as you say, I will bleed speed for a given rev and the same with them up. The downside is half deployed they are very sensitive if not exactly the same in terms of crabbing the boat slightly so that it wont track straight and true hands off but will turn gradually maybe initially 10 degrees a minute but slowly tightening the turn. The latter I mention because it can drive me to distraction when doing any major distance without a visible waypoint, night or fog passages.
 
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