Sundays_Child
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I\'ve never seen a hull like this
I've never seen a hull like this
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Sundays_Child
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Re: I\'ve never seen a hull like this
That's the paper model... here she was for real:
looks like a slug. Got to admire the innovative spirit though!
That's the paper model... here she was for real:
looks like a slug. Got to admire the innovative spirit though!
jhr
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Re: I\'ve never seen a hull like this
Early prototype RIB. The sponsons were moved upwards a bit after testing /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Early prototype RIB. The sponsons were moved upwards a bit after testing /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
jfm
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Re: I\'ve never seen a hull like this
I'd like to see a cross section. It looks like an early attempt at a boat that isn't affected by waves. Point is, if you make the horizontal cross section (i mean the cross section viewed from above, as if you sliced the boat with a knife moving on the horizontal plane) very small, and put all the buoyancy in a bulb underwater, and all the accom in another bulb above the water, the boat is virtually immune to waves. It simply doesn't bob up and down at all in the waves, and instead remains perfectly still. Hard to do in practice, and the nearest modern attempt is the very clever cat built in this pod fashion - forgot the name of it for a minute... will come back to me.., 2007 build and about 40m LOA
I'd like to see a cross section. It looks like an early attempt at a boat that isn't affected by waves. Point is, if you make the horizontal cross section (i mean the cross section viewed from above, as if you sliced the boat with a knife moving on the horizontal plane) very small, and put all the buoyancy in a bulb underwater, and all the accom in another bulb above the water, the boat is virtually immune to waves. It simply doesn't bob up and down at all in the waves, and instead remains perfectly still. Hard to do in practice, and the nearest modern attempt is the very clever cat built in this pod fashion - forgot the name of it for a minute... will come back to me.., 2007 build and about 40m LOA
agurney
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Re: I\'ve never seen a hull like this
There are several more models in the Glasgow Transport Museum that are just as bizarre, most of which were built.
There are several more models in the Glasgow Transport Museum that are just as bizarre, most of which were built.
tico
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Re: I\'ve never seen a hull like this
Would that be the SWATH ship, survey vessel?? (Small Waterline Twin Hull)
prog on Discovery a few weeks ago
Would that be the SWATH ship, survey vessel?? (Small Waterline Twin Hull)
prog on Discovery a few weeks ago
nonitoo
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Re: I\'ve never seen a hull like this
There were quite a few russian warships built in the 1870s like this.
IIRC the name Popov springs to mind.
Tom
There were quite a few russian warships built in the 1870s like this.
IIRC the name Popov springs to mind.
Tom
Poignard
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Sundays_Child
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Re: I\'ve never seen a hull like this
Very good!
"She was designed by Russian Vice-Admiral Andrey A. Popoff and considered either the pinnacle of shipbuilding of that time or totally not seaworthy, depending to whom you were talking to."
Very good!
"She was designed by Russian Vice-Admiral Andrey A. Popoff and considered either the pinnacle of shipbuilding of that time or totally not seaworthy, depending to whom you were talking to."
Sundays_Child
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Re: I\'ve never seen a hull like this
Closest I can see to a cross section:
Don't think she behaved as intended:
"the passengers became frightened & sick from the behaviour of the ship and the Czar ordered an investigation"
Article is here:
http://uglyships.wordpress.com/2009/03/15/livadia/#more-1849
Closest I can see to a cross section:
Don't think she behaved as intended:
"the passengers became frightened & sick from the behaviour of the ship and the Czar ordered an investigation"
Article is here:
http://uglyships.wordpress.com/2009/03/15/livadia/#more-1849
jfm
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Re: I\'ve never seen a hull like this
Yep, sort of. The one I'm thinking of is a luxury s/yacht, but it was closely modelled on SWATH and used the same design team. Still can't remeber the name and don't have time to do deep googling.
Yep, sort of. The one I'm thinking of is a luxury s/yacht, but it was closely modelled on SWATH and used the same design team. Still can't remeber the name and don't have time to do deep googling.
jfm
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Re: I\'ve never seen a hull like this
Ah, blimey, that's not slim at all. It's downright obese. I take back all I said about it being a slim waterline wave-immune ship
Ah, blimey, that's not slim at all. It's downright obese. I take back all I said about it being a slim waterline wave-immune ship
MapisM
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jfm
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Re: Silver Cloud possibly
Thanks Mapis. You are like an interactive online encyclopaedia /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif. Yes indeed that's the boat, Silver Cloud. Very clever thinking gone into that boat...
Thanks Mapis. You are like an interactive online encyclopaedia /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif. Yes indeed that's the boat, Silver Cloud. Very clever thinking gone into that boat...
MapisM
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Re: Silver Cloud possibly
Nah, PY is a better contender for yourself on such title... /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
But as it happens, I read something about the construction of this vessel on some online magazine (ProBoatBuilder prolly, can't remember exactly), a year ago or so. Agreed anyway, interesting stuff.
Nah, PY is a better contender for yourself on such title... /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
But as it happens, I read something about the construction of this vessel on some online magazine (ProBoatBuilder prolly, can't remember exactly), a year ago or so. Agreed anyway, interesting stuff.
