It’s time to buy my next boat

[Goody]

Hi all
So it’s time for my next small sailing yacht and these are my requirements:

1) No more than 20 foot in length
2) Bilge Keels
3) Traveller out of the cockpit, prefer it either at stern or at the bottom of the companionway
4) No toilet, sink or cooker - just want a day sailer
5) Reasonable size cockpit
6) Cabin
7) Outboard engine
8) Topping lift or similar ( I don’t want to keep removing the boom after each sail during the sailing season)

The following would be a bonus but I realise can be added;
Roller Reefing/ Furling
Lazy Jacks
Sail bag or Stack pack
Depth sounder

Budget of £2k

Any recommendations would be appreciated, thanks

 

[All_at_Sea]

One of the smaller Westerlys, 21ft though. Jouster or Warwick.

 

[Greenheart]

I think that may be the most specific description I've ever heard - more like someone selling a boat, than hoping to buy!

Why restrict yourself to 20ft overall length? Not many bilge-keelers are that small. Leisure 17, of course, but that's VERY small.

It's a widely-held belief on this forum that the best thing to do is buy a broadly suitable boat fairly close to where you are, rather than looking for a particular marque that may require costly or time-consuming investigation far from home.

 

[jamie N]

This has most of what you want, and you could offer £10, and might get it. Loads out there now, and the price is what you want to offer.

 

[Praxinoscope]

A good little boat (19') that was well built and a good design was the Sea Wych, they come up every now and again and seems to tick a lot of the OP's boxes.

 

[peteK]

What have you at the moment as its no good making suggestions if your new boat is no improvement on the old one.

 

[V1701]

As above you will be looking at what's available relatively locally & it would be folly to discount a good boat because it, e.g. has a toilet, or doesn't have lazy jacks. Put your parameters in on Apollo Duck & see what comes up, also worth a look on ebay. Treat each boat on it's merits and I'd have thought you'll get a nice boat for your budget. It is unlikely, however, to tick all your boxes, they never do!

Edit - here you go this comes close & only asking £900!

 

[Goody]

One of the smaller Westerlys, 21ft though. Jouster or Warwick.

Thanks, just googled some pics of those, they look interesting ?

 

[Goody]

I think that may be the most specific description I've ever heard - more like someone selling a boat, than hoping to buy!

Why restrict yourself to 20ft overall length? Not many bilge-keelers are that small. Leisure 17, of course, but that's VERY small.

It's a widely-held belief on this forum that the best thing to do is buy a broadly suitable boat fairly close to where you are, rather than looking for a particular marque that may require costly or time-consuming investigation far from home.

Fair comment, point taken

 

[Goody]

This has most of what you want, and you could offer £10, and might get it. Loads out there now, and the price is what you want to offer.

Thanks for the link, but I’m not interested in what looks like a project boat

 

[Greenheart]

The Westerly Warwick is a very complete little yacht, amazingly spacious for her 21ft length. But I believe they're usually equipped with an inboard, and if you want to treat her as a dayboat, there may be sleeker designs than one which has been drawn to fit nearly full headroom, and a galley and separate toilet, in her cabin.

 

[Goody]

A good little boat (19') that was well built and a good design was the Sea Wych, they come up every now and again and seems to tick a lot of the OP's boxes.

Yes thanks, that one could work ?

 

[Goody]

What have you at the moment as its no good making suggestions if your new boat is no improvement on the old one.

I currently have a Squib

 

[Goody]

As above you will be looking at what's available relatively locally & it would be folly to discount a good boat because it, e.g. has a toilet, or doesn't have lazy jacks. Put your parameters in on Apollo Duck & see what comes up, also worth a look on ebay. Treat each boat on it's merits and I'd have thought you'll get a nice boat for your budget. It is unlikely, however, to tick all your boxes, they never do!

Edit - here you go this comes close & only asking £900!

Funnily enough I did go and see this boat but there wasn’t enough headroom in the cabin

 

[Goody]

The Westerly Warwick is a very complete little yacht, amazingly spacious for her 21ft length. But I believe they're usually equipped with an inboard, and if you want to treat her as a dayboat, there may be sleeker designs than one which has been drawn to fit nearly full headroom, and a galley and separate toilet, in her cabin.

Is that the same for the Jouster?

 

[Greenheart]

The Jouster is a slightly sportier, internally more cramped design I believe. The roomy Warwick was like a smaller Pageant, which was like a smaller Centaur.

You have a Squib? Ah, then you need a Sandhopper.
Bilge keels, no loo, and plenty of headroom.

Sadly, not many of them out there.

 

[Goody]

What does everyone think about the Hunter Europa?

 

[mickywillis]

Any good? On the Westerly OC website:

Westerly 21 –

 

[Goody]

Any good? On the Westerly OC website:

Westerly 21 –

Thanks for the link, but it reads like a project boat

 

[ProMariner]

Live a little: Hunter Formula One? Lifting keel, little more pricy, but great sailor.