capnsensible
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That could be a possibility. How sad.Perhaps the OP is on a wind up à la Ted.
That could be a possibility. How sad.Perhaps the OP is on a wind up à la Ted.
Every silver lining has a cloud...Thank goodness fish farming is coming into the Med on an industrial scale. The Sea Bass and Bream in your local supermarket have likely come from Greece.
Even so, wild fish are still being overfished, but in Greece at least there are fewer large boats out simply because there are so few fish left. Octopus, once the mainstay of poor families, like oysters in England, are all but extinct and have to be imported from SE Asia.
The one/two man boats now go for the very smallest fish - 'Gavros' they are called, though they are wrongly named as sardines in tourist restaurants. I avoid these after wondering why local fishermen fished so close to yachts in anchorages, then realised these fish are attracted by human waste. (Yuk!)
There are some signs of recovery. I saw several swordfish jumping last year, some decent sized.
It is a lot more reglemented and fishing time is limited.The majority of the med in the west is a marinne park- no large scale fishing boats allowed. certinaly the local fishermen around there have seen their catches decrease over the years however.
Whatever the short-term issues, fish farming is ultimately both essential and inevitable. Of course it will have a major impact on ecology, just as land faming has. (Just imagine England without farms). And farmed fish will never taste as good as wild fish, any more than domestic pig tastes as good as wild boar. But without farming, humans will continue to catch and eat their way down the wild food chain, ensuring not only that larger fish are fished out, but that they cannot recover.Every silver lining has a cloud...
In Lanzarote there has been a big fish farm off Playa Quemada for many years. After continual complaints from locals how the sea bed in the surrounding area has been heavily polluted by uneaten food pellets and excrement, the local government have finally ordered its removal. At its peak there were 58 cages. ... But I suppose with the sea bed in the Med wrecked in so many places, it may do no further harm to install the cages and harvest the result.
Big fish eating little fish is not a new thingFeeding fish with pellets made of fish, that went well with cows
Please don't miss understand.... in principle I agree. So if the water is good and the seabed is already knackered, it's to me, logical.Whatever the short-term issues, fish farming is ultimately both essential and inevitable. Of course it will have a major impact on ecology, just as land faming has. (Just imagine England without farms). And farmed fish will never taste as good as wild fish, any more than domestic pig tastes as good as wild boar. But without farming, humans will continue to catch and eat their way down the wild food chain, ensuring not only that larger fish are fished out, but that they cannot recover.
I'm surprised that people are not more aware of the extent of fish farming already in the Med. The east coast of Italy for example, from Venice down to Ancona, is one massive fish farm - which incidentally is quite an obstacle to cruising the Adriatic.
To quote what the wife always says to me...’did you enjoy your little rant ?’We waste £bn in this country on so called green enery c..p. Electric cars , windmills & efforts to reduce emissions etc. All of which are a waste of time to me.
Leave me alone in the way I run my life. But you can ask me to be careful in what I recycle & what I do that effects what ends up in the sea. Yes, I still have to go to the loo, but I would happily pay to have it properly treated prior to it getting into the oceans.
I would not complain about paying more for food, if it did not poison our rivers. Farmers have plenty of land to grow less efficient crops, if we paid them the proper rate. They have been growing stuff for centuries & should know how by now.
I would have no objection to the govt. WEF et alia spending the money they steal from us on stupid carbon policies, on cleaning up the oceans. It would be something that I could see having an effect, possibly even in my limited lifetime.
Presumably you give her the slap she deserves after such a remarkTo quote what the wife always says to me...’did you enjoy your little rant ?’
Hardly surprising you have a limited lifetime. Are you still living in the 1950's?Presumably you give her the slap she deserves after such a remark